[VoiceOps] WiFi SIP phones recommendations

Shripal Daphtary shripald at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 06:35:19 EDT 2015


Great Tim. Thanks for the input here. I'll take a look at the dect  options below. 

Shripal

> On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:17 AM, Tim Bray <tim at kooky.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/09/15 18:05, Shripal Daphtary wrote:
>> Hello All, 
>> 
>> I'm looking to implement 6-10 WIFI phones for a 3 floor restaurant using
>> unifi AP-PRO's.  i'm not sure if they are using zero handoff on the
>> AP's, but i'm sure they can implement, if they need to.
> 
> 
> I'm presuming you need to be able to use any handset on any floor of the
> restaurant.  And uou really need 10 phones.
> 
> Then you are just into the bottom end of needing an enterprise DECT
> system. I would use something like the:
> 
> 
> - gigaset N720
> - panasonic KX-UDS124UK
> - RTX    RTX 8630/8660    (which is the same as the snom roaming dect)
> 
> 
> These are all roaming dect systems.  You are going to have to do some
> site survey work to get the distance between the bases correct.  In
> Dect, the bases have to see each other over the air to synchronize timing.
> 
> 
> I've never really found a wifi (as in wireless lan) combination which is
> good enough for handoff.  unifi zero handoff doesn't really work well.
> Maybe with cisco APs and cisco phones, but I haven't really tried that.
> 
> 
>> I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a good (and
>> simple) SIP Wifi hadsets.  we wanted to use a yealink w52, but because
>> the repeaters only support one base, it wont work for this implementation.  
> 
> Difference between a dect base designed for SME, and a dect base for
> enterprise.
> 
> If you only want 6 handsets.  And only need 4 calls.  And 2 of the phone
> calls will always be in range of the base station.  And all phone on 4
> SIP accounts (so 2 handsets share a SIP account with another handset)
> 
> You could use:
> 
> Gigaset N510IP  (supports 4 calls, and 6 handsets)
> 
> RTX Pro repeaters.  (up to 6 repeaters).  The repeaters can do repeater
> to repeater links.
> 
> 
> But really makesure you understand the limitations of this setup.
> 
> You can't put 6 SIP accounts into a ring group on your PBX, because only
> the first 4 will ring (because the base can only do 4 calls)
> 
> Also be aware that gigaset have different variants (read, limits on how
> many calls) for each country.  So double check.
> 
> ***********
> 
> And one more option would be:
> 
> Panasonic KX-TGP600
> 
> http://business.panasonic.co.uk/communication-solutions/PBX-SIP/business-SIP-systems/SIP-DECT-single-base-unit/KX-TGP600
> 
> 
> This supports 8 handsets and 8 calls.  And support repeaters.  So for an
> 8 handset solution, this might fit really well.
> 
> There is also a KX-TPA65   This is a dect desk phone.  I know that one
> of the problems is restaurants is people stealing the handsets.  We've
> had a lot of customers turn down dect solutions because worried the
> handsets will walk off.   If you use the deskphone and screw to the
> desk, it won't move.  And you still get the easy installation without
> having to run a cat5.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think the Panasonic probably best for you, if 8 handsets are enough.
> 
> (sorry, that's a long email)
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
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