[VoiceOps] Wholesale Voice Carriers with Instant Porting

Fri Jun 17 09:16:45 EDT 2016

Peter,

Thanks for the detailed info.

So with bandwidth.com, on the actual port date, can you go into their
portal and press activate or something similar, anytime through the day of,
and it will port within minutes of your pressing that button? I realize
there is an auto activate which on the day of it will port at a certain
time on that day. Also sounds like you have the ability to schedule a port
at a certain time on that day, but I am wondering how far in advanced you
have to schedule?

On number 2 I didn't mean having to pay to use Bandwidth.com's API. Large
carriers like bandwidth pay big bucks to Neustar to access their API to
speed up the porting process. I wanted to make sure whatever carrier we
went with had that functionality.

I was hoping to hear better things about Vitelity as their pricing is
better than Bandwidth.com's. What about Onvoy/Broadvox which are
parent/sister companies to Vitelity? Do they each have their own portal?

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:

> I'll expand.
>
> 1. Bandwidth can port most all numbers, but not all numbers are Tier 1 or
> 5, which support SMS. Rural Maine is tough, and there was a small place in
> North Carolina we couldn't. Other than that, they are pretty capable on
> porting.
>
> 2. I don't pay Bandwidth any fees to access their API, which is well
> written and works. They do have a "beta" reverse API call that will put you
> in control of releasing (or not) port outs. You can add ports in their
> portal, but I haven't seen anywhere to "run CSRs."
>
> 3. It looks like if you want to auto-activate, it happens at 11:30am. You
> can
> set it to "Customer Activation" which allows you to set a time between 5am
> and 10:45pm, but I'm not entirely sure how that works or if it meets your
> needs outlined in #3.
>
> 4. No instant porting. But Bandwidth does port mobile numbers that are
> connected in about 1 business day. I submitted one on a Sunday late
> afternoon at it ported Monday at 11:30am Eastern.
>
> I've been happy with Bandwidth and their services, though their billing
> department must be scrutinized monthly. My first month they billed me the
> default 1.9c per minute for calls that should have been rated at 0.002, and
> their downloadable BDRs (Billing Detail Records) contain duplicates and are
> often missing during the month.
>
> ----
>
> Vitelity
>
> 1. They can port most numbers, but it takes longer than Bandwidth (add 1-3
>    days)
>
> 2. They have an API, but it is pretty ghetto. It works though. I've heard
> they are rewriting and working on something more modern and flexible.
>
> 3. No option to choose FOC time nor date, though you can request it through
> a support ticket. Doesn't always happen though, very manual.
>
> 4. No instant porting.
>
> ----
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing more from others.
>
> Beckman
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> Kidd, can you explain how bandwidth's porting process works, and how it
>> works on activation day? What options do they give you? I like what I see
>> from bandwidth, but one of the primpary markets that we do operate in is
>> off-net for bandwidth. So I asusme they would have to go through a third
>> party-off net provider.
>>
>> This market however is covered by Level3, Verizon, Broadvox (now
>> Onvoy/Vitelity), AT&T, and the other cell providers.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Kidd Filby <kiddfilby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We use, and I have used many times over the years, Bandwidth.  Their time
>>> frame is certainly the fastest I have experienced.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a nationwide CLEC/Carrier that has the best porting
>>>> process available. In my mind, this is:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The ability to port most numbers, and port them to their own network.
>>>> That way they are only dealing with the losing carrier's porting
>>>> department, and not having to send the port to an off-net carrier
>>>> waiting
>>>> and going through their porting department.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Have paid the ridiculous high priced API fee to Nuestar to allow for
>>>> instant porting on the FOC date. Meaning they have built some sort of
>>>> interface for wholesale customers so we can login online to upload
>>>> ports,
>>>> run CSRs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Once a port is confirmed, on the FOC date, have the ability to
>>>> initiate the port at our time of choosing. Not at a forced specific time
>>>> frame (like 10AM every morning), but if I want to port it a 4:59PM I
>>>> can do
>>>> so, and the process will flow though without any human intervention.
>>>>
>>>> 4. The ability to do instant porting on mobile numbers. Example, if we
>>>> want to port a mobile number away from Verizon Wireless and convert it
>>>> to a
>>>> SIP line, I have heard you can do that instantly if you have the account
>>>> pin of the Verizon Wireless number. This is less important than the
>>>> other 3
>>>> items.
>>>>
>>>> Which carriers have this capability? I know no one carrier can be on-net
>>>> everywhere, but I assume one of the big boys would fit this bill.
>>>>
>>>> What about the following carriers:
>>>> Level3
>>>> Bandwidth
>>>> Onvoy/Broadvox/Viteility
>>>> Verizon
>>>> AT&T (Do they have a wholesale SIP product?)
>>>> Centurylink
>>>> Inteliquent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are their porting capabilities and user facing portals like?
>>>>
>>>> There might be a reseller that could fit this bill if they built their
>>>> own portal, and built on API's to the larger carriers.
>>>>
>>>> Please keep it on list.
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Kidd Filby
>>> 661.557.5640 (C)
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kiddfilby
>>>
>>>
>>
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