[VoiceOps] Wholesale Voice Carriers with Instant Porting
Peter Beckman
beckman at angryox.com
Fri Jun 17 10:02:27 EDT 2016
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, Colton Conor wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> So with bandwidth.com, on the actual port date, can you go into their
> portal and press activate or something similar, anytime through the day of,
> and it will port within minutes of your pressing that button? I realize
> there is an auto activate which on the day of it will port at a certain
> time on that day. Also sounds like you have the ability to schedule a port
> at a certain time on that day, but I am wondering how far in advanced you
> have to schedule?
I've never done it, the manual activation. I'd give them a call to talk.
855-864-7776 option 4 for Sales I think. Option 5 for porting, but dunno
if they'd talk to you unless you were a customer.
> On number 2 I didn't mean having to pay to use Bandwidth.com's API. Large
> carriers like bandwidth pay big bucks to Neustar to access their API to
> speed up the porting process. I wanted to make sure whatever carrier we
> went with had that functionality.
Ah. Dunno who Bandwidth uses, but they do have "a service" that manages
the ports for them. I don't know how much it does or who does it.
> I was hoping to hear better things about Vitelity as their pricing is
> better than Bandwidth.com's.
I've found the opposite.
> What about Onvoy/Broadvox which are parent/sister companies to Vitelity?
> Do they each have their own portal?
Haven't used them yet.
Beckman
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll expand.
>>
>> 1. Bandwidth can port most all numbers, but not all numbers are Tier 1 or
>> 5, which support SMS. Rural Maine is tough, and there was a small place in
>> North Carolina we couldn't. Other than that, they are pretty capable on
>> porting.
>>
>> 2. I don't pay Bandwidth any fees to access their API, which is well
>> written and works. They do have a "beta" reverse API call that will put you
>> in control of releasing (or not) port outs. You can add ports in their
>> portal, but I haven't seen anywhere to "run CSRs."
>>
>> 3. It looks like if you want to auto-activate, it happens at 11:30am. You
>> can
>> set it to "Customer Activation" which allows you to set a time between 5am
>> and 10:45pm, but I'm not entirely sure how that works or if it meets your
>> needs outlined in #3.
>>
>> 4. No instant porting. But Bandwidth does port mobile numbers that are
>> connected in about 1 business day. I submitted one on a Sunday late
>> afternoon at it ported Monday at 11:30am Eastern.
>>
>> I've been happy with Bandwidth and their services, though their billing
>> department must be scrutinized monthly. My first month they billed me the
>> default 1.9c per minute for calls that should have been rated at 0.002, and
>> their downloadable BDRs (Billing Detail Records) contain duplicates and are
>> often missing during the month.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Vitelity
>>
>> 1. They can port most numbers, but it takes longer than Bandwidth (add 1-3
>> days)
>>
>> 2. They have an API, but it is pretty ghetto. It works though. I've heard
>> they are rewriting and working on something more modern and flexible.
>>
>> 3. No option to choose FOC time nor date, though you can request it through
>> a support ticket. Doesn't always happen though, very manual.
>>
>> 4. No instant porting.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> I'm looking forward to hearing more from others.
>>
>> Beckman
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, Colton Conor wrote:
>>
>> Kidd, can you explain how bandwidth's porting process works, and how it
>>> works on activation day? What options do they give you? I like what I see
>>> from bandwidth, but one of the primpary markets that we do operate in is
>>> off-net for bandwidth. So I asusme they would have to go through a third
>>> party-off net provider.
>>>
>>> This market however is covered by Level3, Verizon, Broadvox (now
>>> Onvoy/Vitelity), AT&T, and the other cell providers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Kidd Filby <kiddfilby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We use, and I have used many times over the years, Bandwidth. Their time
>>>> frame is certainly the fastest I have experienced.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a nationwide CLEC/Carrier that has the best porting
>>>>> process available. In my mind, this is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The ability to port most numbers, and port them to their own network.
>>>>> That way they are only dealing with the losing carrier's porting
>>>>> department, and not having to send the port to an off-net carrier
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> and going through their porting department.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Have paid the ridiculous high priced API fee to Nuestar to allow for
>>>>> instant porting on the FOC date. Meaning they have built some sort of
>>>>> interface for wholesale customers so we can login online to upload
>>>>> ports,
>>>>> run CSRs, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Once a port is confirmed, on the FOC date, have the ability to
>>>>> initiate the port at our time of choosing. Not at a forced specific time
>>>>> frame (like 10AM every morning), but if I want to port it a 4:59PM I
>>>>> can do
>>>>> so, and the process will flow though without any human intervention.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. The ability to do instant porting on mobile numbers. Example, if we
>>>>> want to port a mobile number away from Verizon Wireless and convert it
>>>>> to a
>>>>> SIP line, I have heard you can do that instantly if you have the account
>>>>> pin of the Verizon Wireless number. This is less important than the
>>>>> other 3
>>>>> items.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which carriers have this capability? I know no one carrier can be on-net
>>>>> everywhere, but I assume one of the big boys would fit this bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the following carriers:
>>>>> Level3
>>>>> Bandwidth
>>>>> Onvoy/Broadvox/Viteility
>>>>> Verizon
>>>>> AT&T (Do they have a wholesale SIP product?)
>>>>> Centurylink
>>>>> Inteliquent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What are their porting capabilities and user facing portals like?
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be a reseller that could fit this bill if they built their
>>>>> own portal, and built on API's to the larger carriers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please keep it on list.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kidd Filby
>>>> 661.557.5640 (C)
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kiddfilby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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