[VoiceOps] Fax ATAs/devices

Carlos Alvarez caalvarez at gmail.com
Thu Apr 27 21:14:13 EDT 2017


Maybe we've just been lucky, but our law customers really love new tech.
In fact if I could just work for law offices all the time I'd love it.  So
low maintenance.

As to the absurdity of any kind of fax...yeah...

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Nicholas Sten <nicksten at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alex knows about that old method, too, I'm sure. The part that gets me is
> the law firms. Once they realize their fax machine isn't directly squealing
> into the destination fax machine, they freak out.  On the other hand, any
> entity that has no problem with connectionless faxing should be an easy
> target to talk into some sort of efax solution.
>
> It's absurd we are still discussing traditional faxing as a serious means
> of communication.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, there are boxes that store and forward the fax.  They "answer" the
> call from the machine and accept the fax.  Then they use HTTP(S) to deliver
> the image to a server, where it is then again sent as a fax to the
> endpoint.  Which in many cases converts it back to an image, and e-mails it
> to someone.
>
> If this all sounds completely retarded since it's really just scanning and
> e-mailing, you are correct.  But people are stupid.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The interfaces for delivering fax that I know about are:
>>
>> 1. Modem tones embedded in acoustic/bearer path;
>>
>> 2. T.38 (to gateway with TDM or analog PSTN trunks).
>>
>> Is there another method I don't know about?
>>
>> On April 27, 2017 7:35:42 PM EDT, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >I am pretty sure all these carriers just use HTTPS Faxback technology.
>> >I
>> >know Concord Fax provides wholesale fax service to Momentum Telecom.
>> >All
>> >that I have seen require an Audiocodes HTTPS fax adapter. Not sure what
>> >runs the server piece. Is there anything opensouce that supports HTTPS
>> >fax?
>> >No, I am not talking about SIP or T.38 that shit doesn't work well.
>> >
>> >On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fax is dead.  Long live fax.
>> >>
>> >> We've resisted supporting it, but customers still need it on
>> >occasion, and
>> >> they hate having a separate landline carrier just for a fax line.  So
>> >I'm
>> >> wondering what others here use successfully to provide their
>> >customers with
>> >> a "fax line" to a physical machine.  We would only use a handful of
>> >them,
>> >> and only with our customers who have a fully managed service (IE,
>> >2-3ms
>> >> connection directly to us over MPLS).  We run Asterisk and pass T.38
>> >to a
>> >> few carriers.  We currently do fax to e-mail inbound on Asterisk with
>> >no
>> >> issues.
>> >>
>> >> Volume is very light, maybe 3-5 per day per customer, so things like
>> >the
>> >> Vitelity FaxEnable don't make economic sense ($25/mo unlimited our
>> >cost).
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
>> -- Alex
>>
>> --
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