[VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

Carlos Alvarez caalvarez at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 08:35:40 EDT 2018


That’s A-GPS using WiFi and related location databases. A raw, basic, $40 gps module attached to an arduino gets nothing useful in the middle of my standard wood and stucco house. 


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> On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn <aaron at heyaaron.com> wrote:
> 
> Depends on the construction.
> I usually get a good GPS fix on my cell phone indoors.
> 
> Then again, I don't work in the 4th sub-basement of a skyscraper. ;)
> 
> -A
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:36 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> They don’t work indoors.
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>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've always wondered why VoIP phones don't have a cheap GPS chip in them.
>>> 
>>> Sure, it could raise all sorts of problems from a spoofing
>>> perspective, but for valid 911 calls it could come in handy...
>>> 
>>> -A
>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:41 PM Ryan Delgrosso <ryandelgrosso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Automatic, nope. Psuedo-auto im looking at it now.
>>>> 
>>>> West supports sending custom headers to indicate a phones location inside a building to provide additional routing info but nothing using geo-location.
>>>> 
>>>> You could leverage this to have phones send custom headers based on network location.
>>>> 
>>>> I have not seen anything using geo-ip or GPS primarily because most IP handsets dont to those things.
>>>> 
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>>>> On 10/23/2018 4:21 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone doing this yet?  The ability to detect the location of a phone and automatically update the 911 address?  Yes, I realize it's a difficult if not impossible thing, yet thought I'd ask since a customer asked me.
>>>> 
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