[VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

Matthew Crocker matthew at corp.crocker.com
Fri Oct 26 08:45:41 EDT 2018


Location information should be pushed to the phone via DHCP.  The DHCP server can get option82 information from the PoE switch port.  The phone should then include the information in an INVITE for emergency calls based on its dial plan. The carrier can pass the information through to the NG911 PSAP.  

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That’s A-GPS using WiFi and related location databases. A raw, basic, $40 gps module attached to an arduino gets nothing useful in the middle of my standard wood and stucco house. 
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>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn <aaron at heyaaron.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Depends on the construction.
>> I usually get a good GPS fix on my cell phone indoors.
>> 
>> Then again, I don't work in the 4th sub-basement of a skyscraper. ;)
>> 
>> -A
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:36 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They don’t work indoors.
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>>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've always wondered why VoIP phones don't have a cheap GPS chip in them.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, it could raise all sorts of problems from a spoofing
>>>> perspective, but for valid 911 calls it could come in handy...
>>>> 
>>>> -A
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:41 PM Ryan Delgrosso <ryandelgrosso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Automatic, nope. Psuedo-auto im looking at it now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> West supports sending custom headers to indicate a phones location inside a building to provide additional routing info but nothing using geo-location.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could leverage this to have phones send custom headers based on network location.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not seen anything using geo-ip or GPS primarily because most IP handsets dont to those things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/23/2018 4:21 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone doing this yet?  The ability to detect the location of a phone and automatically update the 911 address?  Yes, I realize it's a difficult if not impossible thing, yet thought I'd ask since a customer asked me.
>>>>> 
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