[VoiceOps] International (Non-US/Canada) Termination Providers

Jared Geiger jared at compuwizz.net
Mon Apr 8 17:49:07 EDT 2019


I've had pretty good luck cherry picking countries from DT ICSS, TI
Sparkle, Telefonica, TATA, PCCW, ibasis, Telia, and others where they tend
to have networks in country. Then using Verizon and Inteliquent to fill in
the gaps with their premium routes. It doesn't make for the cheapest
product to offer or the easiest to automate but quality complaints (CLI,
PDD, audio quality, FAS) dropped significantly. I'd add BT and Orange but
they want $50k plus deposits and thats just not practical for our size.

If you're looking for places to put small volumes of call center/short
duration traffic on, you'll spend considerable time trying to keep routes
open for any length of time. Which in that case, find someone with access
to Verizon's HVSD International rates and send it there. Then tell me who
it is so we can also buy from them :)

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:44 PM Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:

> We've been happy with nobody, like you, on both reachability and cost.
>
> We use Thinq for 38.1% of our international termination in the last month.
> We've had issues where a call to the destination number is not the actual
> intended endpoint. Mostly it is fine, but like I said not 100% happy. But
> maybe that's a pipe dream for any carrier.
>
> We use Onvoy/Voyant/Vitelity for another 47%, but high cost there.
>
> We are enabling the Bandwidth.com Intl deck and are looking at Inteliquent,
> but we also spend more than you do, which might be a dealbreaker for you
> and those carriers.
>
> We have a carrier that we use for International termination for 15% now and
> they are reliable but expensive and much of our termination goes through
> Inteliquent anyway, we're just paying a pass-thru premium.
>
> Beckman
>
> PS - numbers rounded, vaguely
>
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Ivan Kovacevic wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > We have been struggling to find good international routes. We mostly
> handle
> > contact centre traffic in NA and do not have much traffic ($500ish per
> > month) internationally, but it has been exceedingly painful to manage.
> >
> > We've tried a couple of carriers (Level3 - expensive and bad, TATA -
> > cheaper but bad and will randomly block traffic, couple of CLECs who also
> > offer A-Z).
> >
> > Financially it's not worth the hassle and managing the providers, but our
> > contact centre clients do need to be able to make non-contact centre
> > international calls on occasion, so we have to support it.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > <http://www.startelecom.ca>
> >
> > *Ivan Kovacevic*
> >
> > *STAR TELECOM*
> >
> > *www.startelecom.ca <http://www.startelecom.ca>*
> >
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