[VoiceOps] FUSF is 26.5% for Q3 2020: Discuss

Mon Aug 24 17:45:14 EDT 2020

Wow.....so it sounds like maybe they are offering services but the 
donations from the government to fund it certainly don't make it all the 
way to the customer! My car loan costs less than your Gigabit ethernet!

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2020-08-24 10:43 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote:
> Eh.  I'm out in the brush.  ~5 houses in my 1.5 mile road.  Gigabit
> internet.
> Of course it's ~$300/mo after taxes, fees, surcharges, etc...
> ...and they can only deliver around 350 Mbit during 'peak'
> times--which is pretty much any time not between 1:30 AM and 4 AM.
> 
> A more 'reasonable' speed like 50 Mbit is still $200/mo...
> 
> Why don't I lease some of the fiber that's running about 75 feet from
> my house and start providing better internet service in the area?
> Regulations and start-up costs due to those regulations.
> 
> -A
> 
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 8:24 AM Mary Lou Carey
> <marylou at backuptelecom.com> wrote:
> 
>> I live 15 minutes outside my local city limits and I'm only 45
>> minutes
>> from downtown Nashville. My only internet option is satellite. I pay
>> 
>> $160 a month for a service that isn't as good as the $30 DSL service
>> I
>> used to have when I lived inside the city limits. That may be
>> because
>> I'm served by an AT&T remote office rather than the ILEC that
>> services
>> the areas at both ends of my street. You'd think cell service and
>> wireless service would be better because I'm only a mile from the
>> closest cell tower. That's not the case however. Interestingly
>> enough no
>> on seems to claim that tower - they all tell me I'm not in a good
>> service area because the tower is so far away. Go figure.....so if
>> you
>> ask me, the people with 20-80 acres probably aren't getting much of
>> anything because the people with an average of 5 or less acres
>> aren't
>> even getting decent service!
>> 
>> My guess is it's probably going into someone's slush fund because
>> its
>> NOT going into providing decent service!
>> 
>> MARY LOU CAREY
>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>> Office: 615-791-9969
>> Cell: 615-796-1111
>> 
>> On 2020-08-23 01:18 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>>> I'd never really looked at the trend, but wow, it's gone up 5x in
>> 20
>>> years.  I suppose this correlates with bringing out morre rural
>>> internet services?  In the last few years, in nearby Prescott,
>> I've
>>> been seeing signs and ads for 100M+ service to the middle of
>> nowhere.
>>> Places where each house has 20-80 acres.  Must be paid by this, I
>>> assume.
>>> 
>>> https://files.taxfoundation.org/20181210115844/FF626_3.png
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:57 PM Collin Anderson
>>> <collin at averysmallbird.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> USAC sets the contribution factor based on the needs of the USF
>>>> programs. There's a few articles out there about how market
>> changes
>>>> -- e.g. decrease revenues -- have increased the rate. But these
>>>> changes and their justifications are public records:
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> https://www.usac.org/service-providers/making-payments/contribution-factors/
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:24 AM Carlos Alvarez
>>>> <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm curious how this gets decided and changed.  Is it the FCC
>> acting
>>>> on its own?  Pushed by legislators or the white house?  Does
>> anyone
>>>> have a say in it?
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:20 AM Mike Hammett
>> <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Slushfund out of the taxpayer's eyes.
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> 
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>> 
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Peter Beckman" <beckman at angryox.com>
>>>> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 10:15:54 PM
>>>> Subject: [VoiceOps] FUSF is 26.5% for Q3 2020: Discuss
>>>> 
>>>> Holy Crap. Reviewing my bills for July -- FUSF jumped from 19.6%
>> to
>>>> 26.5% !!!
>>>> For Q3 2020.
>>>> 
>>>> 1Q 2009 was 9.5%.
>>>> 
>>>> How much is being collected and what actually is this money going
>>>> toward?
>>>> And WHY do they need such a high percentage?!?
>>>> 
>>>> Discuss. (Or yell at me that this isn't the place, I couldn't
>> find a
>>>> voiceops-discuss@)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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