[VoiceOps] FUSF is 26.5% for Q3 2020: Discuss

[Carlos Alvarez]

That's what surprised me.  There I was in my Jeep, traipsing across terrain
that mostly required a Jeep, seeing a house every five minutes.  But there
were signs on this "road" saying "100 MBPS+ internet now available, call
us!"  And sure enough, talking to a rancher, he gets well over 100 x 20.

I think AZ is an outlier, and Zona Communications seems super aggressive
about leveraging E-rate and USF.

Oh...now this is funny...  I live too close to the city to get their
gigabit symmetrical service.  I am just far enough outside the city that I
can't get the city's gig service.  But I do get 900x35 cable service for
$120.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 8:23 AM Mary Lou Carey <marylou at backuptelecom.com>
wrote:

> I live 15 minutes outside my local city limits and I'm only 45 minutes
> from downtown Nashville. My only internet option is satellite. I pay
> $160 a month for a service that isn't as good as the $30 DSL service I
> used to have when I lived inside the city limits. That may be because
> I'm served by an AT&T remote office rather than the ILEC that services
> the areas at both ends of my street. You'd think cell service and
> wireless service would be better because I'm only a mile from the
> closest cell tower. That's not the case however. Interestingly enough no
> on seems to claim that tower - they all tell me I'm not in a good
> service area because the tower is so far away. Go figure.....so if you
> ask me, the people with 20-80 acres probably aren't getting much of
> anything because the people with an average of 5 or less acres aren't
> even getting decent service!
>
> My guess is it's probably going into someone's slush fund because its
> NOT going into providing decent service!
>
> MARY LOU CAREY
> BackUP Telecom Consulting
> Office: 615-791-9969
> Cell: 615-796-1111
>
> On 2020-08-23 01:18 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
> > I'd never really looked at the trend, but wow, it's gone up 5x in 20
> > years.  I suppose this correlates with bringing out morre rural
> > internet services?  In the last few years, in nearby Prescott, I've
> > been seeing signs and ads for 100M+ service to the middle of nowhere.
> > Places where each house has 20-80 acres.  Must be paid by this, I
> > assume.
> >
> > https://files.taxfoundation.org/20181210115844/FF626_3.png
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:57 PM Collin Anderson
> > <collin at averysmallbird.com> wrote:
> >
> >> USAC sets the contribution factor based on the needs of the USF
> >> programs. There's a few articles out there about how market changes
> >> -- e.g. decrease revenues -- have increased the rate. But these
> >> changes and their justifications are public records:
> >>
> >
> https://www.usac.org/service-providers/making-payments/contribution-factors/
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:24 AM Carlos Alvarez
> >> <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm curious how this gets decided and changed.  Is it the FCC acting
> >> on its own?  Pushed by legislators or the white house?  Does anyone
> >> have a say in it?
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:20 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Slushfund out of the taxpayer's eyes.
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >> Midwest Internet Exchange
> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >>
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >> From: "Peter Beckman" <beckman at angryox.com>
> >> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 10:15:54 PM
> >> Subject: [VoiceOps] FUSF is 26.5% for Q3 2020: Discuss
> >>
> >> Holy Crap. Reviewing my bills for July -- FUSF jumped from 19.6% to
> >> 26.5% !!!
> >> For Q3 2020.
> >>
> >> 1Q 2009 was 9.5%.
> >>
> >> How much is being collected and what actually is this money going
> >> toward?
> >> And WHY do they need such a high percentage?!?
> >>
> >> Discuss. (Or yell at me that this isn't the place, I couldn't find a
> >> voiceops-discuss@)
> >>
> >>
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Peter Beckman
> >> Internet Guy
> >> beckman at angryox.com
> >> http://www.angryox.com/
> >>
> >
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