[VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
Mike Hammett
voiceops at ics-il.net
Wed Mar 25 12:45:24 EDT 2020
Right. The "more details" is the part I'm looking to build a library of.
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From: "Brandon Svec" <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com>
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Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
NANPA defines normal uses for Nxx and refers to local regulators for more details:
https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:25 AM Mike Hammett < voiceops at ics-il.net > wrote:
Other than voip-info.org , is there a voice-centric WIKI out there that we may be able to crowd-source this information? I'd be up for contributing the information I collect for my coverage area to some central repository.
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Mike Hammett
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From: "Paul Timmins" < paul at timmins.net >
To: "Mike Hammett" < voiceops at ics-il.net >
Cc: "Ken Mix" < ken.mix at clearfly.net >, voiceops at voiceops.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: Three Digit Numbers
Definitely not. Especially with stuff like 2-1-1 which (at least in Michigan) routes on the county level.
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Mike Hammett < voiceops at ics-il.net > wrote:
I take it there's no authoritative list of what geographies need to send what N11 calls where?
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Mike Hammett
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From: "Ken Mix" < ken.mix at clearfly.net >
To: "Mike Hammett" < voiceops at ics-il.net >, "Paul Timmins" < paul at timmins.net >
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:29:59 AM
Subject: RE: Three Digit Numbers
If there's something standardized out there, I’d love to see a link to it. We have a nationwide US footprint and had to build an internal system to handle routing to 211, 311, 511, 711 & 811 based on calling number. It was a real pain tracking down all of the numbers we need to translate to, though.
We’re a pretty small business-only carrier, and volume to non-911 N11 numbers is low, but not insignificant. Current N11 call counts in 2020:
211 - 270
311 - 82
511 - 67
711 - 34
811 - 323
From: VoiceOps < voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:25
To: Paul Timmins < paul at timmins.net >
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
Are we supposed to be providing the intelligence in how to route those calls? IE: Customer is in the City of Chicago, so route it to the city's Digger 10 digit, whereas if the customer is anywhere else in Illinois, route it to the state's JULIE 10 digit?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest Internet Exchange
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From: "Paul Timmins" < paul at timmins.net >
To: "Carlos Alvarez" < caalvarez at gmail.com >
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:14:18 AM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
711 and 811 have federal mandates to go to telecommunications relay service and one call facilities flagging services respectively. Be careful about working like that.
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Carlos Alvarez < caalvarez at gmail.com > wrote:
We don't handle any others in a traditional way. Well, 611 is actually in place, to our support line, but it has never once been used. 811 and 711 are used for 911 testing without a real 911 call, as carriers mostly use those for automated systems that return your 911 info.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:55 AM Mike Hammett < voiceops at ics-il.net > wrote:
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What three digit numbers are commonly in use and how are people routing them?
Obviously there's 911 and that has a whole routing ecosystem.
What about 811? 311? X11?
What other special numbers are people handling?
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Mike Hammett
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