[VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
Andy Brezinsky
andy at mbrez.com
Wed Mar 25 13:29:52 EDT 2020
I've been looking for something like this for years. It'd be really
nice to get it into a machine readable format to digest by routing
engines. Maybe a Github repo would be best for tracking the changes?
On 3/25/20 11:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Right. The "more details" is the part I'm looking to build a library of.
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> *From: *"Brandon Svec" <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:42:15 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
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> NANPA defines normal uses for Nxx and refers to local regulators for
> more details:
> https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html
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> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:25 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net
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> Other than voip-info.org <http://voip-info.org>, is there a
> voice-centric WIKI out there that we may be able to crowd-source
> this information? I'd be up for contributing the information I
> collect for my coverage area to some central repository.
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> *From: *"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
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> *Cc: *"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:15:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Three Digit Numbers
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> Definitely not. Especially with stuff like 2-1-1 which (at least
> in Michigan) routes on the county level.
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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net
> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
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> I take it there's no authoritative list of what geographies
> need to send what N11 calls where?
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> *From:*"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
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> *To:*"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>>, "Paul Timmins"
> <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:29:59 AM
> *Subject:*RE: Three Digit Numbers
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> If there's something standardized out there, I’d love to see a
> link to it. We have a nationwide US footprint and had to build
> an internal system to handle routing to 211, 311, 511, 711 &
> 811 based on calling number. It was a real pain tracking down
> all of the numbers we need to translate to, though.
>
> We’re a pretty small business-only carrier, and volume to
> non-911 N11 numbers is low, but not insignificant. Current N11
> call counts in 2020:
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> 211 - 270
> 311 - 82
> 511 - 67
> 711 - 34
> 811 - 323
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> *From:*VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
> <mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>>*On Behalf Of*Mike Hammett
> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:25
> *To:*Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
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> Are we supposed to be providing the intelligence in how to
> route those calls? IE: Customer is in the City of Chicago, so
> route it to the city's Digger 10 digit, whereas if the
> customer is anywhere else in Illinois, route it to the state's
> JULIE 10 digit?
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> *From:*"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
> *To:*"Carlos Alvarez" <caalvarez at gmail.com
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> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:14:18 AM
> *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
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> 711 and 811 have federal mandates to go to telecommunications
> relay service and one call facilities flagging services
> respectively. Be careful about working like that.
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> On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Carlos Alvarez
> <caalvarez at gmail.com <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> We don't handle any others in a traditional way. Well,
> 611 is actually in place, to our support line, but it has
> never once been used. 811 and 711 are used for 911
> testing without a real 911 call, as carriers mostly use
> those for automated systems that return your 911 info.
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:55 AM Mike Hammett
> <voiceops at ics-il.net <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
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> What three digit numbers are commonly in use and how
> are people routing them?
>
> Obviously there's 911 and that has a whole routing
> ecosystem.
> What about 811? 311? X11?
>
> What other special numbers are people handling?
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