[VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers

Andy Brezinsky andy at mbrez.com
Wed Mar 25 14:58:42 EDT 2020


If anyone is looking to contribute, I created a Github project and 
seeded it with some information I know about 811.  I'm open for 
suggestions on the file formats.


https://github.com/n11db/n11_database



On 3/25/20 12:29 PM, Andy Brezinsky wrote:
>
> I've been looking for something like this for years.  It'd be really 
> nice to get it into a machine readable format to digest by routing 
> engines.  Maybe a Github repo would be best for tracking the changes?
>
>
> On 3/25/20 11:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Right. The "more details" is the part I'm looking to build a library of.
>>
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>> *From: *"Brandon Svec" <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com>
>> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>> *Cc: *"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net>, "Voiceops.org" 
>> <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:42:15 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> NANPA defines normal uses for Nxx and refers to local regulators for 
>> more details:
>> https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html
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>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:25 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net 
>> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
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>>     Other than voip-info.org <http://voip-info.org>, is there a
>>     voice-centric WIKI out there that we may be able to crowd-source
>>     this information? I'd be up for contributing the information I
>>     collect for my coverage area to some central repository.
>>
>>
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>>     -----
>>     Mike Hammett
>>     Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>     http://www.ics-il.com
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>>     Midwest Internet Exchange
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>>     *From: *"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>>     *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
>>     <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>>
>>     *Cc: *"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
>>     <mailto:ken.mix at clearfly.net>>, voiceops at voiceops.org
>>     <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>     *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:15:39 AM
>>     *Subject: *Re: Three Digit Numbers
>>
>>     Definitely not. Especially with stuff like 2-1-1 which (at least
>>     in Michigan) routes on the county level.
>>
>>         On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Mike Hammett
>>         <voiceops at ics-il.net <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         I take it there's no authoritative list of what geographies
>>         need to send what N11 calls where?
>>
>>
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>>         -----
>>         Mike Hammett
>>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>         http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>         Midwest Internet Exchange
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>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         *From:*"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
>>         <mailto:ken.mix at clearfly.net>>
>>         *To:*"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
>>         <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>>, "Paul Timmins"
>>         <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>>         *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>         *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:29:59 AM
>>         *Subject:*RE: Three Digit Numbers
>>
>>         If there's something standardized out there, I’d love to see
>>         a link to it. We have a nationwide US footprint and had to
>>         build an internal system to handle routing to 211, 311, 511,
>>         711 & 811 based on calling number. It was a real pain
>>         tracking down all of the numbers we need to translate to, though.
>>
>>         We’re a pretty small business-only carrier, and volume to
>>         non-911 N11 numbers is low, but not insignificant. Current
>>         N11 call counts in 2020:
>>
>>         211 - 270
>>         311 - 82
>>         511 - 67
>>         711 - 34
>>         811 - 323
>>
>>         *From:*VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>>         <mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>>*On Behalf Of*Mike Hammett
>>         *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:25
>>         *To:*Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>>         *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>         *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>>         Are we supposed to be providing the intelligence in how to
>>         route those calls? IE: Customer is in the City of Chicago, so
>>         route it to the city's Digger 10 digit, whereas if the
>>         customer is anywhere else in Illinois, route it to the
>>         state's JULIE 10 digit?
>>
>>
>>
>>         -----
>>         Mike Hammett
>>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>         http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>         Midwest Internet Exchange
>>         http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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>>         *From:*"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net
>>         <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>>         *To:*"Carlos Alvarez" <caalvarez at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>>
>>         *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>         *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:14:18 AM
>>         *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>>         711 and 811 have federal mandates to go to telecommunications
>>         relay service and one call facilities flagging services
>>         respectively. Be careful about working like that.
>>
>>             On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Carlos Alvarez
>>             <caalvarez at gmail.com <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             We don't handle any others in a traditional way. Well,
>>             611 is actually in place, to our support line, but it has
>>             never once been used.  811 and 711 are used for 911
>>             testing without a real 911 call, as carriers mostly use
>>             those for automated systems that return your 911 info.
>>
>>             On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:55 AM Mike Hammett
>>             <voiceops at ics-il.net <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>>                 What three digit numbers are commonly in use and how
>>                 are people routing them?
>>
>>                 Obviously there's 911 and that has a whole routing
>>                 ecosystem.
>>                 What about 811? 311? X11?
>>
>>                 What other special numbers are people handling?
>>
>>
>>
>>                 -----
>>                 Mike Hammett
>>                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>                 http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>                 Midwest Internet Exchange
>>                 http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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