[VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
Andy Brezinsky
andy at mbrez.com
Wed Mar 25 14:58:42 EDT 2020
If anyone is looking to contribute, I created a Github project and
seeded it with some information I know about 811. I'm open for
suggestions on the file formats.
https://github.com/n11db/n11_database
On 3/25/20 12:29 PM, Andy Brezinsky wrote:
>
> I've been looking for something like this for years. It'd be really
> nice to get it into a machine readable format to digest by routing
> engines. Maybe a Github repo would be best for tracking the changes?
>
>
> On 3/25/20 11:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Right. The "more details" is the part I'm looking to build a library of.
>>
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>> *From: *"Brandon Svec" <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com>
>> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>> *Cc: *"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net>, "Voiceops.org"
>> <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:42:15 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> NANPA defines normal uses for Nxx and refers to local regulators for
>> more details:
>> https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html
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>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:25 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net
>> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
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>> Other than voip-info.org <http://voip-info.org>, is there a
>> voice-centric WIKI out there that we may be able to crowd-source
>> this information? I'd be up for contributing the information I
>> collect for my coverage area to some central repository.
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> *From: *"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
>> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>>
>> *Cc: *"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
>> <mailto:ken.mix at clearfly.net>>, voiceops at voiceops.org
>> <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:15:39 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> Definitely not. Especially with stuff like 2-1-1 which (at least
>> in Michigan) routes on the county level.
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Mike Hammett
>> <voiceops at ics-il.net <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I take it there's no authoritative list of what geographies
>> need to send what N11 calls where?
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>> *From:*"Ken Mix" <ken.mix at clearfly.net
>> <mailto:ken.mix at clearfly.net>>
>> *To:*"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net
>> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>>, "Paul Timmins"
>> <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:29:59 AM
>> *Subject:*RE: Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> If there's something standardized out there, I’d love to see
>> a link to it. We have a nationwide US footprint and had to
>> build an internal system to handle routing to 211, 311, 511,
>> 711 & 811 based on calling number. It was a real pain
>> tracking down all of the numbers we need to translate to, though.
>>
>> We’re a pretty small business-only carrier, and volume to
>> non-911 N11 numbers is low, but not insignificant. Current
>> N11 call counts in 2020:
>>
>> 211 - 270
>> 311 - 82
>> 511 - 67
>> 711 - 34
>> 811 - 323
>>
>> *From:*VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>> <mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>>*On Behalf Of*Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:25
>> *To:*Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> Are we supposed to be providing the intelligence in how to
>> route those calls? IE: Customer is in the City of Chicago, so
>> route it to the city's Digger 10 digit, whereas if the
>> customer is anywhere else in Illinois, route it to the
>> state's JULIE 10 digit?
>>
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>> *From:*"Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net
>> <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
>> *To:*"Carlos Alvarez" <caalvarez at gmail.com
>> <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>>
>> *Cc:*voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:14:18 AM
>> *Subject:*Re: [VoiceOps] Three Digit Numbers
>>
>> 711 and 811 have federal mandates to go to telecommunications
>> relay service and one call facilities flagging services
>> respectively. Be careful about working like that.
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Carlos Alvarez
>> <caalvarez at gmail.com <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> We don't handle any others in a traditional way. Well,
>> 611 is actually in place, to our support line, but it has
>> never once been used. 811 and 711 are used for 911
>> testing without a real 911 call, as carriers mostly use
>> those for automated systems that return your 911 info.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:55 AM Mike Hammett
>> <voiceops at ics-il.net <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> What three digit numbers are commonly in use and how
>> are people routing them?
>>
>> Obviously there's 911 and that has a whole routing
>> ecosystem.
>> What about 811? 311? X11?
>>
>> What other special numbers are people handling?
>>
>>
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>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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