[VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

Tue Feb 9 13:43:19 EST 2021

Wide Voice used to run the PSTN connectivity (they may still do it, I
haven't investigated) for FreeConferenceCall.com and other similar
services. They probably had to change up the business model when
intercarrier compensation rates dried up.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:55 PM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net> wrote:

> That's the first I've heard of Wide Voice. Their network looks little
> sparse at the moment. I wonder if it's on-demand, as in once you inquire
> about a LATA, they build it out.
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> *From: *"Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
> *Cc: *"VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, February 8, 2021 5:33:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
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> You can get a PSTN Connection Service from Peerless or Wide Voice.
> Inteliquent used to offer that service but they have backed away from it
> recently.
>
> To make it simple, you have to get certified as an Interconnected VOIP
> carrier and then set up SIP trunks with your PSTN Connection provider.
> You order a POI CLLI and LRN NXX for every LATA that you want to enter
> and point your traffic to the PSTN Connection provider's switch in the
> LERG. You still have all your own NXXs and LRNs, but you can get rid of
> your SS7 network because the PSTN Connection Service Provider handles
> that piece. You still do all your own porting and maintain all your
> connections with 911, LD, VOIP providers. If you want more information
> on how it all works, just message me privately.
>
> MARY LOU CAREY
> BackUP Telecom Consulting
> Office: 615-791-9969
> Cell: 615-796-1111
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> On 2021-02-08 03:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > Due to receiving several offlist e-mails about this point, I wanted to
> > point out that I'm not looking to do SIP directly to an ILEC tandem. I
> > assume there would be some abstraction layer happening by a third
> > party.
> >
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> > Mike Hammett
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> > From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
> > To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:24:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
> >
> > I did want to circle back on this.
> >
> > I am currently a CLEC with traditional voice services in a single LATA
> > on a single set of tandems. We have SS7, do our own porting, etc.
> > I understand that going interconnected VoIP (instead of CLEC) may be
> > easier for my expansions.
> >
> > So that I don't have to drag T1s all over the place, what options do I
> > have in front of me? To be clear, I am looking for specific providers
> > and products, even off-list solicitations.
> >
> > I'm not afraid of T1s, they're just expensive. I got a quote for a
> > single T1 to the facility where the other tandem in our LATA is, and
> > it was far more expensive than just sending the calls out our
> > termination providers. If I need more than one T1 (one for each
> > tandem), then I'm really priced out of the market. Obviously that
> > course of action wouldn't help me for my own number blocks.
> >
> > I looked at straight DID\minute services, but as some of our past (and
> > potential future) customers have several hundreds of DIDs compared to
> > the amount of traffic they'd have, that gets a difficult to operate
> > in.
> >
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> > Mike Hammett
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> > From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
> > To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM
> > Subject: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
> >
> > I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left
> > out company names.
> >
> > One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in
> > getting us the inbound long distance calls, not the local ones. Well,
> > they would, but the terms were vastly different.
> >
> > Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem,
> > what's the point in using a third party to connect to long distance?
> >
> > Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because
> > the access tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could
> > potentially involve connections to a bunch of other switches, once
> > volume dictated I needed direct connections...  and they don't want to
> > deal with that?
> >
> > Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for
> > local tandem services?
> >
> > Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I
> > went circles with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he was
> > saying, but I could be wrong.
> >
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