[VoiceOps] Fake Voicemail Anti-Robocall Tactics

Nick Olsen nick at 141networks.com
Tue Feb 16 13:27:14 EST 2021


My faith in STIR/SHAKEN has all but collapsed. I think we're just going to
end up in a situation where even the SPAM is attested. At least having a
breadcrumb to follow might help.

Given the current state of SS. I won't hold my breath.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:44 PM Karl Douthit <karl at piratel.com> wrote:

> Stir will only help if carriers actually pass or allow tokens.  Still
> waiting on several tier 1 carriers to take them.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:35 AM Glen Gerhard <glen at cognexus.net> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully Stir/Shaken will make this a moot point. Calvin, are you saying
>> that a 608 is the recommended response for a call that is being rejected
>> due to S/S attestation or CVT reasons?
>>
>> ~Glen
>>
>> On 2/16/2021 8:19 AM, Calvin Ellison wrote:
>>
>> Today we received a notice from one of our underlying carriers that
>> included the following statement:
>>
>> * If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not own, the clec's can
>>> forward to call to a voiceless Voicemail which appears to be FAS.
>>>
>>
>> Is there any legal device that actually supports this practice? I'm
>> looking for a specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a judicial ruling,
>> or the like.
>>
>> The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response code is to be used for
>> signaling when a call is rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that
>> terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss of trust and revenue
>> between upstream intermediate and originating carriers.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Calvin Ellison*
>> Systems Architect
>> calvin.ellison at voxox.com
>> +1 (213) 285-0555
>>
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