[VoiceOps] AT&T Verizon to block text messaging

Brandon Svec bsvec at teamonesolutions.com
Thu Mar 4 12:44:40 EST 2021


This Twilio link actually has a lot of details including fees and what they
know and don't know at this time.
https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260800720410-What-is-A2P-10DLC-

They make pretty clear this will not impact small businesses, but is
intended to recover costs of preventing spam by charging high volume
business senders and ISV's
*Brandon *


On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 9:41 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. All 10DLC (a DID) will become a campaign. You would need to ask for
> an exemption and to prove that your users (consumers, person to person) do
> not need to e registered as a campaign.
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:38 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So you're saying that user to user messaging will be limited?  I haven't
>> seen evidence of that.
>>
>> The Bandwidth page says it's just for mass messaging:
>> What's happening?
>>
>> Certain mobile carrier(s) are now adjusting the throughput caps they've
>> historically enforced on local messaging for business senders, also known
>> as A2P programs, while imposing new registration requirements and paying
>> additional fees. The throughput limits will vary, but wanted messages in
>> registered campaigns should receive better throughput than the traditional
>> 1 message per second (MPS).
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:33 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would agree if this was the case. But it is not the case.
>>> That is the reason I suggest we learn more about it and fight it (if it
>>> matters to you).
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:30 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I understand it, this is only about the trash mass-send messaging,
>>>> and not user to user.  Right?  Anything that reduces business abuse of SMS
>>>> is good in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:24 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is what they call 10DLC. Here is what Bandwidth has put
>>>>> together for some more details.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview-and-FAQ
>>>>> I will gather more information and post what I can find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kent described it correctly and it is probably a result of the FCC not
>>>>> regulating the market, which will now become the wild west.
>>>>> What Kent may be missing is that it is not only extra fees (as is the
>>>>> case with Verizon) but a whole registration requirement and actually
>>>>> blocking of messages from unregistered DIDs, as AT&T is about to implement
>>>>> their walled garden.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you offer SMS text messaging to your customers, you should be very
>>>>> worried, and join forces to fight it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oren
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:15 PM Ivan Kovacevic <
>>>>> ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to A2P 10DLC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.startelecom.ca>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ivan Kovacevic*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *www.startelecom.ca <http://www.startelecom.ca>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:30 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have some deep knowledge about AT&T and Verizon's move
>>>>>>> to create their own walled gardens and prevent messages from the outside
>>>>>>> world from coming in, unless they approve each and every phone number (and
>>>>>>> you obviously pay for that approval)?
>>>>>>> Next thing they will block emails from other networks, or maybe all
>>>>>>> IP traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Oren
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