[VoiceOps] AT&T Verizon to block text messaging

Thu Mar 4 12:59:40 EST 2021

Carlos, I have asked this specific question. Basically, the industry does
not see P2P any longer.
You would need to ask for an exemption, and proof that your customers do
not need to register.
In any case, it will cost you money.

I suggest that you contact your underlying carrier/s and get first-hand
information.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:52 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:

> By user to user I mean one human sending one or a few messages to another
> human.  I think all the evidence says this will not be affected at all in
> any way.  It also clearly talks about very high volume senders, so even an
> automated "your appointment reminder" for a small business seems
> unaffected.  I see zero evidence to support the idea that all
> numbers/messaging will become "a campaign."
>
> A2P is specifically not user to user.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:40 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes. All 10DLC (a DID) will become a campaign. You would need to ask for
>> an exemption and to prove that your users (consumers, person to person) do
>> not need to e registered as a campaign.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:38 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So you're saying that user to user messaging will be limited?  I haven't
>>> seen evidence of that.
>>>
>>> The Bandwidth page says it's just for mass messaging:
>>> What's happening?
>>>
>>> Certain mobile carrier(s) are now adjusting the throughput caps they've
>>> historically enforced on local messaging for business senders, also known
>>> as A2P programs, while imposing new registration requirements and paying
>>> additional fees. The throughput limits will vary, but wanted messages in
>>> registered campaigns should receive better throughput than the traditional
>>> 1 message per second (MPS).
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:33 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would agree if this was the case. But it is not the case.
>>>> That is the reason I suggest we learn more about it and fight it (if it
>>>> matters to you).
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:30 PM Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As I understand it, this is only about the trash mass-send messaging,
>>>>> and not user to user.  Right?  Anything that reduces business abuse of SMS
>>>>> is good in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:24 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is what they call 10DLC. Here is what Bandwidth has put
>>>>>> together for some more details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview-and-FAQ
>>>>>> I will gather more information and post what I can find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kent described it correctly and it is probably a result of the FCC
>>>>>> not regulating the market, which will now become the wild west.
>>>>>> What Kent may be missing is that it is not only extra fees (as is the
>>>>>> case with Verizon) but a whole registration requirement and actually
>>>>>> blocking of messages from unregistered DIDs, as AT&T is about to implement
>>>>>> their walled garden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you offer SMS text messaging to your customers, you should be very
>>>>>> worried, and join forces to fight it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oren
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:15 PM Ivan Kovacevic <
>>>>>> ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you referring to A2P 10DLC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.startelecom.ca>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ivan Kovacevic*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *www.startelecom.ca <http://www.startelecom.ca>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:30 AM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have some deep knowledge about AT&T and Verizon's move
>>>>>>>> to create their own walled gardens and prevent messages from the outside
>>>>>>>> world from coming in, unless they approve each and every phone number (and
>>>>>>>> you obviously pay for that approval)?
>>>>>>>> Next thing they will block emails from other networks, or maybe all
>>>>>>>> IP traffic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Oren
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