[VoiceOps] Verizon says they have "no relationship" to port from thinQ/Commio

[Mike Hammett]

Well, *IF* VZW had never had a porting relationship with that SPID, they would have to communicate some how to establish that relationship. 




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From: "Oren Yehezkely" <orenyny at gmail.com> 
To: "Carlos Alvarez" <caalvarez at gmail.com>, "voiceops at voiceops.org" <VoiceOps at voiceops.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:58:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Verizon says they have "no relationship" to port from thinQ/Commio 


IMHO there is no need to call anybody. 
The guy in VZW just does not know the work. 
If I undertook you correctly. 


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 3:17 PM Carlos Alvarez < caalvarez at gmail.com > wrote: 



Commio/thinQ is a fancy API over Intelliquent et al, but seems to maybe have their own SPID? I've never worked in "real" telecom so I don't know those deep details of the porting process. VZW's message said they were trying to contact Commio and couldn't get anyone to answer a phone. Not shocked, per my previous message about thinQ's ethics, I feel they are questionable. 




On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:45 PM Mike Hammett < voiceops at ics-il.net > wrote: 

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We actually are a small provider and when I went to find out how to do this, I was told to sign into the NPAC helpdesk, bulletin boards, contacts, then search by region, SPID, etc. Then ask how to establish said relationship. I've heard it referred to various ways, trading partner, carrier partner, porting partner, etc. 


Obviously, Verizon should know that, but maybe all they need is to be shown that you're not a slouch, and that you're not giving up. 


Is ThinQ their own LEC or are they just a fancy API on top of Level 3, Bandwidth, Peerless, etc.? 




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From: "Carlos Alvarez" < caalvarez at gmail.com > 
To: "VoiceOps" < voiceops at voiceops.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:12:21 PM 
Subject: [VoiceOps] Verizon says they have "no relationship" to port from thinQ/Commio 


A customer is porting a number to VZW, and they can't figure it out. They called me to ask if I had "more info" to help them port out from Commio. My return call went to VM, so I don't have more info, but thought I'd ask here on the list. Any ideas on how this can be, or what to recommend? 


I know Verizon is a small carrier, and may not be wise to the ways of telecom. 


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