[VoiceOps] Numbers listed as spam by Hiya

[Dovid Bender]

I just had a call with Peerless and it seems that this started with Hiya
about a week ago. The issue is that spammers are spoofing numbers only once
in order to stay under the radar. To combat this Hiya is setting all
numbers to spam until they see a few calls from the number. I
originally thought this was strictly a peerless/telnyx issue. I looked up
fresh Inteliquent and bandwidth DID's and the same thing happened. They are
all listed by default as spam. I took a few fresh numbers and I am going to
test to see what happens after a few days of usage.



On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:35 AM Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <
voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:

> Not sure if that was meant tongue in cheek, but the issue is far more
> complicated.  Or maybe you have a different definition of spam.  We have
> customers making legit business calls that still get marked as spam/scam,
> because there's no validation of the reports.  It's just mob rule.
> Eventually the entire number pool will be spam/scam, no?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 7:23 AM Fred Posner via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
>> Doesn’t it make sense to block numbers from carriers that send spam?
>>
>> Fred Posner
>> fred at palner.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 24, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Dovid Bender via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We primarily purchase numbers from Telnyx and Peerless. Lately any
>> number that we purchase is automatically listed as spam. I searched through
>> both of their stocks for random numbers in random area codes (50+ numbers)
>> and every time Hiya says it's likely SPAM. I presume they are marking any
>> carrier where it's easy to get numbers spam. Has anyone fought back against
>> this or are people just going with larger carriers like inteliquent/VZ etc?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Dovid
>> >
>> >
>> >
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