[VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P

Wed May 4 19:21:11 EDT 2022

My understanding is the campaign is quarterly. $2 / 3 for up to 49 numbers.

Total cost thus for me:
One-time cost:
- $4 brand registration
- $50 T-Mobile registration

Quarterly cost:
- $2 every 3 months for 49 numbers

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On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 1:17 PM Matthew Crocker <matthew at corp.crocker.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Well, this is all new to me so I apologize for misleading or incorrect
> information.   I’m going through the CSP process now and it has been pretty
> quick/easy.   I’ve registered one brand ($4) and one campaign ($2/month).
>
>
>
> I’m using Inteliquent as my interconnect, they charge fees per SMS/MMS.  I
> don’t believe I will be receiving invoices from individual carriers (ala
> CABS)
>
>
>
> *From: *Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:08 PM
> *To: *Matthew Crocker <matthew at corp.crocker.com>
> *Cc: *VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS,
> even P2P
>
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>
> Your statement is misleading, borderline wrong.
>
> It's $200 just to sign up with TCR.
>
> Then it is a variable fee based on how many DIDs you are attempting to
> register.
>
>      Low Volume: $2 per MONTH per DID (non-time-sensitive)
>
> Undisclosed how much it costs if NOT Low Volume.
>
> Then carriers can add on their own per-DID and per-campaign fees.
>
> And this is ONLY for 10DLC A2P SMS -- BUSINESS or BULK SMS, not P2P,
> person-to-person SMS.
>
> Look at the pricing Commio is putting out regarding T-Mobile:
> https://www.thinq.com/blog/t-mobile-10dlc-text-messaging-fee-changes/
>
>      - $50 Campaign Service Activation Fee
>      - $50 Campaign Migration Fee
>      - $2,000 one-time NNID Registration
>      - $10,000 pass-through fee if T-Mobile doesn't like your SMS
>      - $1,000 pass-through fee if they think you're evading the rules
>
> Bandwidth increasing per-SMS fees too:
>
> https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview
>
> Can you imagine your cost basis as a small carrier, to increase your direct
> costs of a DID by 10x or more, just to allow your customer to send and
> receive SMS messages?
>
>
>
> Please note:
>      I am discussing P2P -- PERSON-TO-PERSON -- NOT A2P, BUSINESS-TO-PERSON
>
> See the CTIA Best Practices for the difference between the content of the
> two.
>
> Beckman
>
> On Wed, 4 May 2022, Matthew Crocker wrote:
>
> >
> > www.campaignregistry.com<http://www.campaignregistry.com>
> <http://www.campaignregistry.com%3chttp:/www.campaignregistry.com%3e>
> The process is quick,painless and a campaign costs a small one time fee ($4
> I think)
> >
> >
> > From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Peter
> Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:09 PM
> > To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even
> P2P
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click
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> >
> >
> > I'm hearing from one of my carriers that in order to continue sending P2P
> > (NOT A2P) SMS from our DIDs, my $dayjob needs to purchase and maintain a
> > NetNumber ID to use as the SPID for SMS.
> >
> > I'm also hearing that ALT-SPIDs are being discontinued.
> >
> > Does anyone else know about this change, who is driving it, and why?
> Anyone
> > want to share costs involved in getting and maintaining an NNID for this
> > purpose?
> >
> > This feels more like pay-to-play than a solution to reduce unwanted SMS.
> >
> > Beckman
> >
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