[VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P

[Peter Beckman]

Carriers are having to register with The Campaign Registry directly, rather
than through your carrier's account.

Above a certain level, e.g. a handful of DIDs, the carrier may push you to
register directly with TCR, and then you pay a LOT more money.

As this is the VoiceOps (Voice Operations) group, my question is directed
at carriers who are managing hundreds to hundreds of thousands of DIDs on
behalf of their customers.

Beckman

On Wed, 4 May 2022, Matthew Crocker wrote:

> Well, this is all new to me so I apologize for misleading or incorrect
> information.   I’m going through the CSP process now and it has been
> pretty quick/easy.   I’ve registered one brand ($4) and one campaign
> ($2/month).
>
> I’m using Inteliquent as my interconnect, they charge fees per SMS/MMS.
> I don’t believe I will be receiving invoices from individual carriers
> (ala CABS)
>
> From: Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:08 PM
> To: Matthew Crocker <matthew at corp.crocker.com>
> Cc: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
> Your statement is misleading, borderline wrong.
>
> It's $200 just to sign up with TCR.
>
> Then it is a variable fee based on how many DIDs you are attempting to
> register.
>
>     Low Volume: $2 per MONTH per DID (non-time-sensitive)
>
> Undisclosed how much it costs if NOT Low Volume.
>
> Then carriers can add on their own per-DID and per-campaign fees.
>
> And this is ONLY for 10DLC A2P SMS -- BUSINESS or BULK SMS, not P2P,
> person-to-person SMS.
>
> Look at the pricing Commio is putting out regarding T-Mobile:
> https://www.thinq.com/blog/t-mobile-10dlc-text-messaging-fee-changes/
>
>     - $50 Campaign Service Activation Fee
>     - $50 Campaign Migration Fee
>     - $2,000 one-time NNID Registration
>     - $10,000 pass-through fee if T-Mobile doesn't like your SMS
>     - $1,000 pass-through fee if they think you're evading the rules
>
> Bandwidth increasing per-SMS fees too:
> https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview
>
> Can you imagine your cost basis as a small carrier, to increase your direct
> costs of a DID by 10x or more, just to allow your customer to send and
> receive SMS messages?
>
>
>
> Please note:
>     I am discussing P2P -- PERSON-TO-PERSON -- NOT A2P, BUSINESS-TO-PERSON
>
> See the CTIA Best Practices for the difference between the content of the
> two.
>
> Beckman
>
> On Wed, 4 May 2022, Matthew Crocker wrote:
>
>>
>> www.campaignregistry.com<http://www.campaignregistry.com><http://www.campaignregistry.com%3chttp:/www.campaignregistry.com%3e>   The process is quick,painless and a campaign costs a small one time fee ($4 I think)
>>
>>
>> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:09 PM
>> To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P
>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>>
>> I'm hearing from one of my carriers that in order to continue sending P2P
>> (NOT A2P) SMS from our DIDs, my $dayjob needs to purchase and maintain a
>> NetNumber ID to use as the SPID for SMS.
>>
>> I'm also hearing that ALT-SPIDs are being discontinued.
>>
>> Does anyone else know about this change, who is driving it, and why? Anyone
>> want to share costs involved in getting and maintaining an NNID for this
>> purpose?
>>
>> This feels more like pay-to-play than a solution to reduce unwanted SMS.
>>
>> Beckman
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