[VoiceOps] Voice Peering

[Pinchas Neiman]

Maybe the signup fee, and lookup time is what killed the idea?

If that's the case, we could solve it by downloading the list preemptively,
for the signup we could use some cheap hosting, and instead verifying it
with crypto.

We could possibly cryptographically verify it by showing a STIR/SHAKEN
passport that was signed by one of the major brands.
All  the owner needs is to call his number from a landline, capture the SIP
invite and submit it to the website.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:36 AM chris <tknchris at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 enum was great stuff
>
> Here in NYC  early 2000s we had Stealth doing the VPF (voice peering
> fabric)
>
>
> https://www.channelfutures.com/telephony-uc-collaboration/xo-joins-stealths-vpf
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 10:32 AM Michael Graves via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
>> Every time this comes up I am reminded of ENUM, ITAD, Freenum.org and
>> John Todd, long ago once of the brilliant people at Digium. More recently
>> at Quad9.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is Carrier ENUM still a thing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Graves
>>
>> mgraves at mstvp.com
>>
>> o: (713) 861-4005
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>> c: (713) 201-1262
>>
>> sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> *On Behalf Of *Mike
>> Hammett via VoiceOps
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:29 AM
>> *To:* Pinchas Neiman <neimanpinchas at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] Voice Peering
>>
>>
>>
>> https://wirevolution.com/step-8-register-your-phone-number-at-e164org/
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>>
>>
>> Most of the links have died, so that idea has likely also sunset.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Pinchas Neiman via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *To: *"Alex Balashov" <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
>> *Cc: *"VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:05:26 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Voice Peering
>>
>> I am also quitely new in the industry, wondered a while about this
>> possibility, and never realized that Neutral Tandem/Inteliquent are exactly
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder about a hybrid idea, instead of using a global bridge, we would
>> use direct end peer to end peer SIP, the list of DID->IP translation will
>> be maintained on a public website, any DID could be added to that website
>> by requesting a call to that DID at IP using the website, there may be a
>> nominal listing fee, in order to maintain the website.
>>
>> Once in a while an automated script could download the config from the
>> website and update local routing rules.
>>
>>
>>
>> Were this idea or alike ever implemented? legal issues?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:25 AM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think the realistic responses are going to be some combination of:
>>
>> 1) "Congratulations, you just invented Neutral
>> Tandem/Inteliquent/whatever they are this week"
>>
>> 2) "The SIP peering exchange has been proclaimed every year since the
>> early 2000s"
>>
>> 3) "This is quietly happening for years now anyway, just not in the way
>> you've got in mind."
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
>> > On 24 Oct 2023, at 08:49, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > This was in another thread, but I broke it out into it's own
>> conversation. Someone had asked:
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be
>> interested in exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP?
>> >
>> > The service would just look like a carrier, except it would know how to
>> reach all other participants directly with SIP, bypassing TDM land, and
>> enabling rich media as a fringe benefit, as media would be direct between
>> endpoints.
>> >
>> > I have a proof of concept and am wondering who out there might be
>> willing to do some testing.
>> >
>> > Email me directly if interested, to talk about your network and how
>> something like this might fit in.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Jawaid
>> > ---
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.voip-info.org/the-voice-peering-fabric/
>> > I can't find anything on this in 15 years, so I'm guessing it didn't
>> work out for one reason or another. Can anyone impart some history there?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Mike Hammett
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> > http://www.ics-il.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Midwest Internet Exchange
>> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
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