[VoiceOps] Voice Peering

[Matthew Crocker]

> On Oct 24, 2023, at 9:13 PM, Peter Beckman via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
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> The challenge is how do you authenticate the end "carrier" or service
> provider?
> 

STIR/SHAKEN


> Sure, anyone who leases numbers directly from NANPA can look up the carrier
> of record and exchange traffic directly, but any business who also leases
> numbers INDIRECTLY gets cut out and still needs to pay their upstream
> carrier(s) to place/receive calls, either by channels or per minute, even
> if their upstream is directly peered and not transiting the PSTN at all.
> 
> If this would be for the end user, then NANPA would have to delegate to the
> leasee, the leasee delegate to the reseller, the reseller to the end user,
> then the end user could publish their VoIP contact info, and anyone could
> call directly via VoIP, cutting out all of the middle peers.
> 
> But, as another person said, this is ripe for abuse, and with no motivation
> by NANPA or the larger carriers to make calls less expensive for the
> reseller or end user, I see this going nowhere. Until there is some value
> in NANPA (plus all the other country telephony organizations) and the
> direct carriers leasing numbers to do so.
> 
> Beckman
> 
>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, Ross Tajvar via VoiceOps wrote:
>> 
>> I can think of a few ways that could be adapted into a platform more like
>> an Internet exchange, but as others have said, it just doesn't seem worth
>> it.
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 5:31 PM Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
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>>> I think schemes like DUNDI (and some of the others mentioned here) suffer
>>> from a trust issue – what’s to prevent operator X from poisoning the
>>> protocol with bogus “stolen” numbers?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 5:25 PM Jared Smith via VoiceOps <
>>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:49 AM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <
>>>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This was in another thread, but I broke it out into it's own
>>>>> conversation. Someone had asked:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be interested
>>>>> in exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just another point of VoIP history trivia at this point... but in
>>>> addition to things like ENUM and ITAD, Mark Spencer of Asterisk fame also
>>>> invented Dundi, which was an encrypted peer-to-peer protocol for route
>>>> advertisement and discovery.  As far as I know, very few people besides me
>>>> ever put it in production, but it worked really well at the time. (Of
>>>> course, it's been about 17 or 18 years now since I used it in production.)
>>>> 
>>>> -Jared
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