[VoiceOps] NRUF 502

[Mike Hammett]

Okay, so there would be a formal transaction specifically for the block of numbers, and never anything "casual"? 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:18:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 

It's not an intermediate number unless you LEASE the numbers to the 
other carrier. Letting them take the TN that a former customer had is 
the same as porting. You only need to file U1 and leave any numbers 
ported or donated to another carrier due to a customer move in the 
assigned column. 

MARY LOU CAREY 
BackUP Telecom Consulting 
Office: 615-791-9969 
Cell: 615-796-1111 

On 2024-03-24 07:25 PM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote: 
> https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/NRUF/GeoJobAid.pdf 
> 
> “Resold” services should also be treated like ported numbers, 
> meaning the carrier transferring the service to another carrier or 
> non-carrier entity should classify the numbers as “Assigned” and 
> the numbers should not be counted by the receiving carrier. These 
> numbers should not be considered intermediate numbers because the 
> intermediate classification only applies to blocks of numbers obtained 
> from or given to another carrier or non-carrier entity for future 
> assignment. Numbers transferred with resold services already have 
> established customer assignments and therefore cannot be used for 
> future assignment. 
> 
> So it seems like if I transfer a block to someone else (anyone but an 
> end-user) for them to maintain in inventory or we receive a block of 
> number from someone else, then that's an intermediate number. If it's 
> on a ones-and-twos basis, fulfilled per end-user request, then it's an 
> assigned number. That seems difficult to maintain an accurate count 
> of. If I request numbers from VoIP.MS, Bandwidth, Peerless, etc., it's 
> an assigned number. 
> 
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> Mike Hammett 
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> 
> From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
> Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:39:12 PM 
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 
> 
> What are some examples of when someone would report intermediate 
> numbers? The documentation gives a technical answer, but not a 
> real-world example. 
> 
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> Mike Hammett 
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> 
> From: "Mike Hammett via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
> To: "voiceops" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 6:11:06 PM 
> Subject: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 
> 
> I'm just learning about NRUF 502. 
> As I read the documentation (and some Googling): 
> Every phone number in the blocks I have are either Assigned, 
> Intermediate, Reserved, Aging, or Administrative. 
> Ported out numbers count as assigned. 
> Returned ported numbers are available. 
> I do this for blocks that I got from NANPA. 
> I do not do it for ported numbers. 
> 
> I'm supposed to be able to tell in Neustar SOA what numbers have 
> disconnected. I've reached out to them to figure out how to do that. I 
> couldn't find documentation that was direct enough for me to know it 
> was the right thing. 
> 
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