[VoiceOps] Frontier TDM -> SIP

[Paul Timmins]

To be honest? I'll bet they get rid of the concepts of ILEC/RBOC and CLEC before we see them step away from T1 trunking. They don't want to sink another penny into their legacy networks and they don't want to run tandems for everyone else. Anything they can do to push you away from connecting to the old stuff they will.

-Paul

> On Dec 5, 2024, at 14:31, Enzo Damato via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, that sucks. Did I miss some VZ news that would have affected this?
> 
> With Frontier pushing this off however, I wonder which ROBC will be the first to break and offer SIP interconnection. It has to happen at some point, although at this rate, I'm not sure if "sometime this decade" is too much to hope for.
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> Enzo Damato
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> On 12/5/24 13:25, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote:
>> This will no longer happen in 2025. Not sure if it's related to Verizon or not.
>> 
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>> From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> <mailto:marylou at backuptelecom.com>
>> To: "Nick Olsen" <nick at 141networks.com> <mailto:nick at 141networks.com>
>> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> <mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>, "voiceops" <voiceops at voiceops.org> <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:41:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Frontier TDM -> SIP
>> 
>> Maybe they finally realized they were giving all their business away to 
>> Sinch and InfoBip and that it was going to start costing them money if 
>> they didn't move away from SS7. After all who has more switches to pay 
>> for than the ILECs and RBOCs?
>> 
>> MARY LOU CAREY
>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>> Office: 615-791-9969
>> Cell: 615-796-1111
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>> On 2024-04-17 06:44 PM, Nick Olsen via VoiceOps wrote:
>> > We heard the same thing in the Tampa Market from Frontier. I don't
>> > remember the details outside of for the first time ever, an iLEC
>> > didn't just have a hard no response.
>> > 
>> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 12:58 PM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps
>> > <voiceops at voiceops.org> <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> During a conversation between one of my staff and our Frontier rep
>> >> with the context of moving our TDM tandem connections to IP (which I
>> >> thought was on par with a cold day in hell), our Frontier rep said
>> >> they were investigating SIP trunking for a possible early 2025
>> >> introduction. Given that they already sell retail SIP trunking
>> >> services, I'm optimistic that this might actually happen.
>> >> 
>> >> Have any of you heard anything on this topic?
>> >> 
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>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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