[VoiceOps] Stale Caller ID

[chris]

Right I understand that. Enum was proposed as a potential way to
democratize routing and wouldn't be bound by the PSTN or centralized
databases that was the ultimate goal. It had potential but failed to take
off unfortunately due to non technical reasons :(

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 4:10 PM Kidd Filby <kiddfilby at gmail.com> wrote:

> In US PSTN-speak…. CallerID/name is a terminating feature, unlike Canada
> which is an Originating feature (data sent from caller). Until that
> changes, we are at the mercy of cached data by providers who don’t
> refresh/update their data. Unless Everyone dips the same exact database,
> which I don’t see happening anytime soon, there will be inconsistencies
> between carriers/providers.
>
> Kidd Filby
> 661.557.5640 (C)
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kiddfilby
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 12:47 chris via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> wrote:
>
>> It's too bad ENUM never took off. Would have been great to dip the number
>> get direct sip uri, get a url/pointer to caller id/cnam data etc. Not to
>> mention direct peering without so many hops.
>>
>> - chris
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 2:29 PM Shawn L via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, you're at the mercy of the call-ed party's carrier.  A
>>> lot of providers maintain their own database, and only periodically update
>>> it. I suspect this is a hold-over from when dips were expensive.  That
>>> carrier may, or may not update their databases regularly.  For esample when
>>> I call one of our consultants, my caller id comes up on his phone as the
>>> person who had my DID 20+ years ago, well before we had a relationship with
>>> the consultant.  The correct information is being sent from our switch, and
>>> Neustar has the correct information, but his provider (I think verizon) is
>>> sending something that's completely wrong.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 2:21 PM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <
>>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, you're right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CNAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alex Balashov via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>>> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 1:06:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Stale Caller ID
>>>>
>>>> Caller ID, or calling name (CNAM)?
>>>>
>>>> > On Nov 1, 2024, at 1:52 pm, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <
>>>> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > How common is how stale of caller ID data? We have a customer that is
>>>> complaining that they're getting the wrong data on their phone. They insist
>>>> it's not a local directory. We've verified it works fine on other providers.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----
>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> > http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > VoiceOps mailing list
>>>> > VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>>>> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Balashov
>>>> Principal Consultant
>>>> Evariste Systems LLC
>>>> Web: https://evaristesys.com
>>>> Tel: +1-706-510-6800
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> VoiceOps mailing list
>>>> VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> VoiceOps mailing list
>>>> VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> VoiceOps mailing list
>>> VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> VoiceOps mailing list
>> VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/voiceops/attachments/20241101/816596fb/attachment.htm>