[cisco-voip] Soft Keys just go away

Wes Sisk wsisk at cisco.com
Wed Apr 30 20:48:53 EDT 2008


Kevin,

"MTP Required is checked on all H323 Gateways"
This is very undesirable.  From a design perspective it means all media 
streams go through your MTP resources.  In a default install the only 
MTP resources available are software MTP's hosted out of the IPVMSApp 
service running on CM.  This has several design constraints:
1. it's software only so only G.711
2. it uses CPU, memory, and network throughput on your CM server.  This 
places it in direct competition with ccm.exe which provides your 
dialtone and processes the keypresses on your phone.

If MTP Required can be avoided, then it should be.  If it cannot be 
avoided, then it is best to design in hardware MTPs, dedicate a CM 
server as an MTP server only doing MTP and not running CM, or dedicate 
software MTPs from an IOS device.

You are using up all of your available MTP's and that is causing the 
inability to conference/transfer/hold/park/(invoke any supplementary 
service).

Regards,
Wes

Kevin Dunn wrote:
> Just a FYI
>
> I restarted IP Voice Media Stream Service on both servers.
> I changed teh MTP parameter from 48-60 calls and will keep and eye on 
> CPU Utilization.
>  
> MTP Required is checked on all H323 Gateways
>  
> However I dd not reset the MRGL.
> Frankly I got the "786 devices will be reset" and got scared... lol
>  
> Kevin
>
>  
> On 4/30/08, *Kevin Dunn* <cheesevoice at gmail.com 
> <mailto:cheesevoice at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     So the ?+Line workaround did nto work.
>      
>     Also there was an error in the Event Viewer (and I feel a little
>     stupid for not looking there earlier) MtpNoMoreResourcesAvailable. 
>      
>     So to remedy that error, do I need to reload the server?  I go to
>     SERVICE>MR>MTP and see one one both the SUB (primary) and the PUB
>     (by name and not IP address). 
>     Is there an MTP service I can restart?
>      
>     I still have the case open with TAC....
>      
>     On 4/29/08, *Kevin Dunn* <cheesevoice at gmail.com
>     <mailto:cheesevoice at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         The soft keys are there (XFER the most used one) it just
>         doesn't do anything when she selects it...
>          
>         It isn't always when multiple calls are coming in her phone
>         either.  At first I thought it was just user miseducation, she
>         was trying to XFER a call she hadn't answered yet, but there
>         was a paramter on her phone we checked (Activate New Line??)
>         anyway we checked that DISABLED and that wasn't the issue.
>          
>         Like I said, sometimes it happens when just one call is coming in.
>          
>         I will try the ?+line trick, and Application Event Log on the
>         SUB and PUB and see if teh MTP is in error.  I checked and the
>         MTP is enabled on both servers, and with our call volume, I
>         doubt we are overusing it...BUT I will check regardless. 
>          
>         Thanks so much for the point...it is appreciated Ryan (Wes, et al)
>          
>         Kevin
>
>          
>         On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Ryan Ratliff
>         <rratliff at cisco.com <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>             Application event log of one of the servers.  The reason
>             he asked is that if an MTP needs to be allocated for a
>             call but none is available in some cases the call will
>             connect but you will lose supplementary services (hold,
>             transfer, etc).  In that case though the softkeys will be
>             present, they just won't do anything.  For this issue are
>             there any softkeys present at all or are none shown?  If
>             it shows Redial, NewCall, and CfwdAll (or some subset)
>             then it's probably just that the phone is showing the
>             softkeys for a different line appearance than the active
>             call is on.  Try having the receptionist hit the ? button
>             and then the line she is talking on to see if this brings
>             the softkeys back.  There are a few parameters on the
>             Device page that control the phone's behavior when
>             multiple calls are ringing in or active.  I don't have
>             access to a server to check right now or I'd list them :/
>
>             -Ryan
>
>              
>
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>             *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>             <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
>             [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>             <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of
>             *Kevin Dunn
>             *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:12 PM
>             *To:* Cisco Voice
>             *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Soft Keys just go away
>
>              
>             Last time I posted this Wes had asked if I was getting any
>             alarms for MTP, MRG, MRGL exhausted.
>              
>             the short answer is no, but then to make sure, where would
>             I SEE those alerts?
>              
>             Kevin
>
>              
>             On 4/29/08, *Kevin Dunn* <cheesevoice at gmail.com
>             <mailto:cheesevoice at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Recently we had an issue with our incoming calls, not
>                 every call but 3-4 times a day the receptionist at
>                 multiple locations (H323 and MGCP gateways) would lose
>                 Softkeys (HOLD, PARK, TRANSFER) on both digital and
>                 analog incoming calls.  It seems to happen to everyone
>                 occasionally, but since receptionists take the
>                 majority of incoming non DID calls, they see it more
>                 often (6-8 times a day now).  We are running Call
>                 Manager 4.1.3.25626 (4.1(3)sr6a) and were running sr3
>                 before that. 
>                  
>                 I have a TAC case open, and I see similar issues, but
>                 nothing really matching this activity exactly.  I know
>                 sr7 was just released, but none of those bug fixes
>                 seem to match this either...
>                  
>                 anyone seen this symptom or anything like it before??
>                  
>                 Thanks
>                  
>                 Kevin
>                  
>                 PS I have GWGK and TUC left then I am finished
>                 certification.... yeah me.
>
>
>              
>
>
>
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