[cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity
Matthew Saskin
matt at saskin.net
Thu Aug 7 13:19:57 EDT 2008
All the various tools for CUC 2.x are built into the RTMT. Yes, you use
the same RTMT to connect to CUC and CallManager.
Also in reference to an earlier post, you can't officially split Unity
FO pairs between multiple data centers. Last I looked at the SRND they
need 100mbps lan between the boxes. That said, I've done it with very
mixed results in the past.
-matt
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> At least on UC 1.2x, it has a call viewer, port status monitor, and can
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Charles
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:51 AM
> *To:* Tim Smith
> *Cc:* JASON BURWELL; Cisco VoIP
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity
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> To be honest, all this being said, I would much rather deploy/manage
> Unity than UC...
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> First off, no real tools in UC to diagnose a problem (no call viewer, no
> port status monitor...) and it has that silly SFTP-only backup solution.
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> Also, it seems childish... this may be mystique, but when I see CUC on a
> site, I assume they were too cheap to buy Unity...
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> However, for VM-only it is a decent idea... doesn't make much sense to
> buy full-blown Unity, with Windows 2003, Exchange and SQL licensing,
> just to give voicemail to 100 users.
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> To be honest, I really don't deal with small customers that would think
> CUC would be a solution... the one time I did do a CUC install, the
> customer bought IMAP licenses (so it was the same price as Unity) and
> they complained constantly about how awful IMAP was...
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> Jonathan
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> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Tim Smith <thsglobal at gmail.com
> <mailto:thsglobal at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> No resilience in Unity Connection (currently) - heard rumours it should
> be there in version 7.
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> No networking in Unity Connection (again currently) - so it is stand alone.
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> Unity can support Domino as a message store in both VM or UM - done this
> a couple of times, and I hate it.. just quietly :)
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> Unity is more scalable.. as already mentioned.
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> UC is voicemail in a box.. quick and easy to setup and manage.. no
> Microsoft skills required anymore..
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> Simple voice mail, and you are under the right number of users (and you
> can live with no resilience for now) - then UC is a good choice. The
> appliance model is great. It also has some of the advanced features that
> some of your users may require. I think someone already mentioned there
> is some cool integration with Exchange calendars and personal call
> routing rules.
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> Unity is an "adventure" to setup and manage :) and will usually require
> Microsoft integration skills as well..
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> Unity has lots of flexibility for deployment options to consider also..
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> If you have a large complex deployment, sure you could end up with
> multiple UC servers. But more likely you would look at full Unity, and
> run failover pairs split across 2 x data centers..
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> And of course if you want voicemail, email and faxes to all co-exist in
> 1 big mailbox for each user.. then you have no choice.. Unity all the way.
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> If you do talk Unity to a customer, you need to discuss thoroughly the
> possible impact and integration with their existing network..
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> Cheers,
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> Tim
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> On 8/6/08, *JASON BURWELL* <JASON.BURWELL at foundersfcu.com
> <mailto:JASON.BURWELL at foundersfcu.com>> wrote:
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> *Table 4.* Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging Products
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> *Product*
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> *Number of Users*
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> *E-Mail Integration Options*
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> *Networking to Other Voicemail Systems*
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> *Integration with Third-Party Call Processing*
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> *Speech Recognition*
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> Cisco Unity Express
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> Up to 250
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> Integrated
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> Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products
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> No
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> No
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> Cisco Unity Connection
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> Up to 7500
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> Integrated
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> Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products
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> Yes, with most traditional and IP private branch exchanges (PBXs)
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> Yes
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> Cisco Unity Unified Messaging
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> 7500 per server, networked to 250,000
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> Integrated and Unified Messaging (Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes,
> or Novell GroupWise)
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> Yes, with Voice Profile for Internet Mail (VPIM), Audio Messaging
> Interchange Specification (AMIS), Cisco Unity Bridge, etc.
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> Yes, with most traditional and IP PBXs
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> Yes
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> Found at this link
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/product_data_sheet0900aecd80410ad6_ps6509_Products_Data_Sheet.html
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> Jason Burwell
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> <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Aman Chugh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:20 PM
> *To:* cisco voip
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity
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> I have always tried to understand what is the difference between
> Unity Connection and Unity and when to sell Unity and Unity
> Connection . Looking for differences in architecture of these
> applications and how they work with Exchange.
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> TIA
> Aman
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