[cisco-voip] cisco-voip Digest, Vol 57, Issue 27
Anderson, Chris
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Sun Jul 6 22:17:14 EDT 2008
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1. Re: About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1 (Dennis Heim)
2. Re: About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1 (Voice Noob)
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:30:48 -0500
From: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
To: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob at gmail.com>, "Adam" <cisco at adman.net>
Cc: cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
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I tell my clients this when they want to do production changes outside
of MAC work or other minor trival changes.... Ask yourself "Do you like
your job?"
If the answer is "yes" then you may not want to run DMA during the day.
Running DMA is pretty CPU intensive... you are writing out the entire
SQL database into flat files.
Dennis Heim
Network Voice Engineer
Berbee
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
Carmel, IN 46032
317.569.4255 Office
317.569.4201 Fax
317.694.6070 Cell
dennis.heim at cdw.com
www.berbee.com <http://www.berbee.com/>
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:19 PM
To: Adam
Cc: cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
THanks alot for the help. Does anyone know or has anyone tried to use
the DMA tool and restore the information to a VMware server just to test
the upgrade? I will not have access to the hardware before I go onsite
for these customers but can get the DMA file transferred to myself. Also
can I run this in the middle of the day? Will it stop the publisher from
functioning?
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Adam <cisco at adman.net> wrote:
Best piece of advice I can offier is to allow plenty of time to run the
DMA tool and resolve any error or warnings before your planned cutover
time. I've had upgrades with no warnings and errors, then I've had
upgrades that had two days worth of TAC cases to get it all resolved
before we got a good DMA tar file.
On the Unity upgrades make sure that your Unity server is talking to the
nearest DC/GC (see the reconfiguration guide for details -
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/unity/5x/upgrade/guide/ex/
5xcuruge060.html). I had one upgrade where it had attached to a server
across the WAN so the AD synch part that should have been a twenty or
thirty minute deal ended up taking five hours... not something you want
to hit cancel on in the middle, but it did mean we blew through our
maintenance window.
-Adam
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of upgrades, does anyone have any good resources or tips? I
have about 10 upgrades from 4.1 to 6.1 and Unity 4.0 to Unity 5.0/7.0 in
the next 6 months. I have my first one next week. Any info that could be
provided I would appreciate.
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, omar parihuana
<omar.parihuana at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks James for your prompt response...
We're going to use a new MCS server this new server have 2GB RAM
and 72GB HDD. However the current server only have 18GB and
unfortunately the unit C only have 2.5GB of free space. Still I don't
try to run DMA but I don't know if the 4GB is strictly necessary.
Rgds.
On 7/6/08, James Buchanan <jbuchanan at ctiusa.com> wrote:
Hello,
What is the total capacity of the hard drive? 36GB? 72GB? 6.1
requires 72GB.
Thanks,
James
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of omar parihuana
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:25 PM
To: cisco-voip
Subject: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
Hi list,
I have to migrate a CCM from 4.1 to 6.1 unfortunately the disk
C: space is not enough, in accordance to DMA requeriments 4GB is
necessary, so after of delete CDR and others files, I have 2.5GB of free
space in unit C: in D only 200Mbps. Then my question is: is it strictly
necessary 4GB in unit C in order to run DMA? or 2.5GB will be enough,
because I'm thinking export the .tar file in other unit (maybe network
unit) What other things can I delete into CCM in order to get more
space?
Thanks for your suggestions.
Rgds.
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:37:09 -0500
From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
To: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
Cc: Adam <cisco at adman.net>, cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
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If it is risk vs. reward I think I will make my own decision about that. I
am asking if I run the DMA process does it cause any changes to the call
manager? I need to dump out this information and load it to a vmware server
to see if the upgrade is going to go well.
Also back to my other question can I take this DMA file and restore it to a
VMware server to see if the upgrade process will have any errors? Thanks.
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:
> I tell my clients this when they want to do production changes outside of
> MAC work or other minor trival changes?. Ask yourself "Do you like your
> job?"
>
>
>
> If the answer is "yes" then you may not want to run DMA during the day.
> Running DMA is pretty CPU intensive? you are writing out the entire SQL
> database into flat files.
>
>
>
> Dennis Heim
> Network Voice Engineer
> Berbee
> 11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
> Carmel, IN 46032
>
> 317.569.4255 Office
> 317.569.4201 Fax
> 317.694.6070 Cell
>
> dennis.heim at cdw.com
> www.berbee.com
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Voice Noob
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:19 PM
> *To:* Adam
> *Cc:* cisco-voip
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
>
>
>
> THanks alot for the help. Does anyone know or has anyone tried to use the
> DMA tool and restore the information to a VMware server just to test the
> upgrade? I will not have access to the hardware before I go onsite for these
> customers but can get the DMA file transferred to myself. Also can I run
> this in the middle of the day? Will it stop the publisher from functioning?
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Adam <cisco at adman.net> wrote:
>
> Best piece of advice I can offier is to allow plenty of time to run the DMA
> tool and resolve any error or warnings before your planned cutover time.
> I've had upgrades with no warnings and errors, then I've had upgrades that
> had two days worth of TAC cases to get it all resolved before we got a good
> DMA tar file.
>
> On the Unity upgrades make sure that your Unity server is talking to the
> nearest DC/GC (see the reconfiguration guide for details -
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/unity/5x/upgrade/guide/ex/5xcuruge060.html).
> I had one upgrade where it had attached to a server across the WAN so the
> AD synch part that should have been a twenty or thirty minute deal ended up
> taking five hours... not something you want to hit cancel on in the middle,
> but it did mean we blew through our maintenance window.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Speaking of upgrades, does anyone have any good resources or tips? I have
> about 10 upgrades from 4.1 to 6.1 and Unity 4.0 to Unity 5.0/7.0 in the next
> 6 months. I have my first one next week. Any info that could be provided I
> would appreciate.
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, omar parihuana <omar.parihuana at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks James for your prompt response...
>
>
>
> We're going to use a new MCS server this new server have 2GB RAM and 72GB
> HDD. However the current server only have 18GB and unfortunately the unit C
> only have 2.5GB of free space. Still I don't try to run DMA but I don't know
> if the 4GB is strictly necessary.
>
>
>
> Rgds.
>
>
>
> On 7/6/08, *James Buchanan* <jbuchanan at ctiusa.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> What is the total capacity of the hard drive? 36GB? 72GB? 6.1 requires
> 72GB.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *omar parihuana
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:25 PM
> *To:* cisco-voip
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
>
>
> I have to migrate a CCM from 4.1 to 6.1 unfortunately the disk C: space is
> not enough, in accordance to DMA requeriments 4GB is necessary, so after of
> delete CDR and others files, I have 2.5GB of free space in unit C: in D only
> 200Mbps. Then my question is: is it strictly necessary 4GB in unit C in
> order to run DMA? or 2.5GB will be enough, because I'm thinking export the
> .tar file in other unit (maybe network unit) What other things can I delete
> into CCM in order to get more space?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
>
>
> Rgds.
>
> --
> Omar E.P.T
> -----------------
> Certified Networking Professionals make better Connections!
>
>
>
>
> --
> Omar E.P.T
> -----------------
> Certified Networking Professionals make better Connections!
>
>
>
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