Re: Juniper as egress LSR: to penultimate hop pop, or not?

From: Jesper Skriver (jesper@skriver.dk)
Date: Wed Apr 04 2001 - 16:13:02 EDT


On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 01:06:29PM -0700, Serge Maskalik wrote:
>
> <truncated>
>
> > > Can you explain why it would be useful per interface?
> >
> > We have a specific application where we on a number of dedicated routers
> > originate default route, for use of the routers in the network not
> > carrying full routing (mainly dial and DSL aggregation boxes), these routers
> > will use the LSP formed by LDP/TDP to get to these "default origination
> > boxes", PHP will occur, and the "default .. boxes" will recieve the
> > packets as ordinary IP packets, do NetFlow accounting on them, and do a
> > L3 lookup, and forward them on the LSP to the exit point ...
>
> I can see the ease-of-configuration benefits with your special
> case scenario. In your special case, per-interface control is
> useful. However, with RSVP-TE deployments in large NSP networks,
> one does not has obvious penultimate hop points. Same LSR is
> often a mid-point, head-end and tail-end for many LSPs.
>
> > > I think it makes sense to do on per-LSP basis.
> >
> > Much harder to control on a per-LSP basis, especially when talking about
> > LDP/TDP controlled LSP's.
>
> I'm more interested about the underlying RSVP-TE LSPs.

It all depends on how you build your network, there are multiple ways of
doing it

1) Using LDP LSP's following default IGP paths, and perhaps a few
   TE-LSP's
2) Using a full mesh of TE-LSP's

> Imagine a RSVP-TE core w/ overlay consisting of PE->PE
> LDP LSPs. If I can configure exlicit-null behavior for
> just the underlying TE LSPs, I can infer custom queueing
> policies from the EXP field all the way down to the tail.

Both the above senarios can have the need for end to end queuing on the
EXP field, so I don't think one is more important than the other, it's
just different people that is going to use them ...

/Jesper

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