[c-nsp] ComCast

Fri Jan 13 00:28:06 EST 2006

There are still a lot of coverage areas that cable reaches and DSL does
not.  And the problem is that for most people, switching on a broadband
connection is so stressful and foreign to them that they will not switch
providers once they get it running over a $10-15 monthly price increase.
The cable companies know this and that's why they are raising rates.

In any case the principle of the issue is the FCC defining cable as
an information service.  The data that goes over the cable is the
information service, not the cable itself.  Any fool can see that.
Until there's 3-4 different cable networks in the street that I can
choose
to hook up to, it's a monopoly and rightfully should be regulated.

Justice Scalia had a good analogy for it - the pizza delivery guy and
the pizza place arguing that delivery was "part" of the purchase of
the pizza.  Unfortunately he got outvoted.

The only good thing to come out of the case is the supremacy of the
FCC trumping state laws.  We can only hope in another decade that
the idiots at the FCC get replaced and the FCC eventually re-rules
that the cable wire networks are communications networks.

Ted

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jason Philbrook [mailto:jp at saucer.midcoast.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:19 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Voll, Scott; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ComCast
>
>
>I don't see a problem (other than the UNI-P influence).
>
>Higher cable prices means more opportunities and flexibility for other
>forms of broadband to gain a foothold. You want the customers, but
>really don't want to depend on their plant.
>
>On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:55:08AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>
>> They probably finally got around to updating the switches on his
>> segment..
>>
>> He's probably running Windows.  He needs to get some real operating
>> systems that obfuscate the IPid field.  Good shoices are OpenBSD and
>> FreeBSD.  Some Solaris versions also do this to a certain extent.
>>
>> A paper on determining the NATTed hosts was published a few years
>> ago here:
>>
>> http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/fnat.pdf
>>
>> See http://www.ntop.org for more info on how you access agents on
>> switches that can do this.
>>
>> I frankly have zero sympathy for your employee and I doubt many
>> people on this list do either.  The cable providers are assholes who
>> haven't let any other ISP's access to their network, and in fact it
>> was lawsuits over them doing this that destroyed UNI-p last
>year and has
>> made costs for a whole lot of people get a lot more expensive.   Some
>> clecs will probably go bank-o as a result of it.  The more cable
>> customers
>> finally wise up to what assholes the cable providers are, and go back
>> to the DSL providers, the happier I and a lot of people are gonna be.
>>
>> Merry Christmas from your cable provider.  Oh by the way, before I
>> forget to mention, tell your employee to use Vaseline before he
>> bends over to get "serviced" by his cable provider - since they are
>> going to stick it to him again for more money this year, see:
>>
>>
>http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051203/BIZ/5
>12030371/
>> 1001
>>
>> It will make it feel a bit better.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> >[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:51 AM
>> >To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> >Subject: [c-nsp] ComCast
>> >
>> >
>> >I have an employee that uses ComCast Cable and recently has
>run into a
>> >little problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >He has ComCast High Speed Internet with a little FW.  If he
>has one PC
>> >no problem but if he plugs in a second PC it slows to a
>crawl.  Both PC
>> >work great individually either from the ComCast Cable or
>behind the FW.
>> >He as also switched out Three different FWs.  All have the
>same issue.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >He did some searching and he's not the only one having this issue.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >How is ComCast seeing weather they have one or more
>computers behind a
>> >FW.  The whole purpose of a FW is to hid everything.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >ComCast wants to sell him the home networking package to take care of
>> >this.  He didn't have this issue previous to Christmas.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Any ideas?
>> >
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