[c-nsp] Counterfeit gear (was "service unsupported-linecard")

[The Security Community]

I suppose everyone knows counterfeit Cisco equipment has been
streaming out of China for over a year or more:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/102306counterfeit.html?twht=102306thisweek

<tinfoilhat>

It has to be a Chinese government/military operation.  Wouldn't it be
nice to have your own code on thousands of routers and switches
worldwide?

</tinfoilhat>

On Nov 10, 2007 8:37 AM, Eric Van Tol <eric at atlantech.net> wrote:
> >  I am sure for the most part it's just
> > about protecting their revenue stream.
>
> Of course it is.  I imagine that a company like Cisco, which I'm sure
> suffers the most from counterfeit gear, loses millions every year in
> support costs alone.  Cisco doesn't just accept the bad parts if they
> are shipped to them from an RMA.  They have an entire in-house group,
> which I believe consists of an investigative team that works with local
> law enforcement, that tracks down where the parts were bought.
>
> I'm no huge Cisco defender here, but I'm positive that if you were
> selling a product, you'd want to not have to spend the money to support
> that product, should it be counterfeit.
>
> What Cisco *needs* to do is stop ignoring reputable secondary market
> resellers.  They should work closely with these resellers to "recertify"
> genuine gear.  They're losing out on a lot of revenue, but it's their
> own fault - there are resellers out there that have tried to work with
> Cisco and they've been flat-out ignored.
>
> -evt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Howard Leadmon
> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:00 AM
> > To: 'Adrian Chadd'; 'Ian Henderson'
> > Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] "service unsupported-linecard"
> >
> > I agree, it should be configurable.  As I would be damn
> > peeved if I had a
> > working switch or router, and out of the blue it stopped
> > working.  I find it
> > hard to believe the counterfeiters won't quickly just include whatever
> > response the IOS is looking for in their clone products as well.
> >
> > I believe all my Cisco gear is genuine, but if by any chance
> > any linecards or
> > wics are not, they still work fine!  I am sure for the most
> > part it's just
> > about protecting their revenue stream..
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Howard Leadmon
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> > > bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:07 AM
> > > To: Ian Henderson
> > > Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] "service unsupported-linecard"
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2007, Ian Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > >       starting with the Cisco Catalyst 4500 with Cisco
> > IOS Software
> > > > >       Release 12.2(40)SG, the Supervisor Engine 6-E offers Quack
> > > > >       support, which detects, disables, and logs counterfeit
> > > > >       components.
> > > >
> > > > And what an awesome feature name.
> > > >
> > >
> > > .. is it configurable?
> > >
> > > (no service quack-support)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
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