[c-nsp] ASR 9000

Tim Durack tdurack at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 13:01:55 EST 2008


I think this is the result of competing BUs - no cohesive product strategy,
instead lots of  groups trying to maximize profit out of existing/new
products.

That's why you have IOS/ION/IOS-XE/IOS-XR/NX-OS...

Tim:>

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Christian MacNevin <
christian.macnevin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Am I the only one that's getting a bit wary of Cisco crowding their own
> product space?
>
> I guess it looks like they're trying to draw complete distinctions between
> their enterprise space and their carrier
> space, but who's ever really respected that distinction? Even if they do,
> the carrier I guess is doing ok by getting
> XR everywhere, but the typical enterprise is going to run a combination of
> 3500/3750, 2800/3800, 6500, 7600
> and ASR1000s, right? So five different groups of platforms with five
> distinct feature sets and code bases. Not to
> mention any 'legacy' stuff you're running out there.
>
> God help anybody who deployed 7300s.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Julio Arruda <jarruda-cnsp at jarruda.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Kevin Graham wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> Runs IOS XR, while the recent ASR 1000 series runs IOS XE?  Consistency
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> would be nice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ...or atleast call this a CRS-2 or something. I'm still crossing my
> >> fingers
> >> that there's a master plan for consistency (or alternatively, clear
> >> differentiation) between XR/XE/12.2SX/12.2SR/NX-OS.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Re-uses the RSP nomenclature, just recently put to bed in the 7500
> >>> series.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Nope, 7600 already revived it (RSP720). I don't see reference to line
> >> cards,
> >> but the photos look like ES40's, which finally gives some credibility to
> >> the
> >> 6500/7600 split (where new linecards are shared between ASR9000 and
> 7600).
> >>
> >>
> > I somewhat doubt this is the case..at least from what I can imagine...
> > This would imply in the ASR9k cards being able to talk with the 7600
> > backplane, that I understand, is quite distinct from the CRS-1 ? Isn't
> > the ASR9000 based of the CRS-1 hardware ?
> > Isn't the ASR 9000 based of the CRS-1 Metro packet processors also,
> > while the packet crunching on the 7600 is based of the EARL, and on the
> > ASR 1000 is based on the QFP ?
> > I can't seem to find details on the cards on the ASR 9000, but, just
> > making some wild guess here..
> > (of course, Cisco has been quite effective in getting a clear separation
> > from control plane to forwarding plane, and IOS-XR sure already runs on
> > another completely distinct box, the 12K-XR, so, maybe the 7600 will
> > gain from the ASR 9000 'revamp').
> >
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