[c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

Mack McBride mack.mcbride at viawest.com
Wed Dec 1 13:51:44 EST 2010


The business side usually wants some good justification to spend money.
Right now it doesn't sound like you have one.
Nexus 7K is still pretty bug to use as a core and isn't really core oriented.

Mack

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andris Zarinš
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:34 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

So far I've received  several ideas:
- Go for Juniper's MX series. Technicaly - yes, MXes are good, politicaly - no, I'd like to stick with Cisco and evaluate ASR9K pros/cons;
- Go for Nexus 7K. Politicaly - yes, technicaly - no no no, as Nexus series are excellent for DC deployments but completely not suited for SP transport core operations for a number of reasons that are out of topic, IMHO;
- Stick with 7600, as ASR9K isnt 'ready' yet. YEa, this might be true .. 9K has potential that has to be released, but it hasnt happened yet, so it would be wise to wait a while and see what happens. 

I guess the last argument sounds the most reasonable, at least for today.


Andris









-----Original Message-----
From: raymondh (NSP) [mailto:raymondh.nsp at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:21 PM
To: Mack McBride
Cc: Andris Zariņš; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

I believe the greatest difference which _may_ or will happen will be its roadmap on the 100G cards ?
I doubt it'll be happening on a 1:1 basis on the 7600, you may want to verify with your Cisco account rep.

Nothing is bug free, which includes printing "hello world". look at the brighter side, at least there's "rollback" ? :p


--raymondh

On 02-Dec-2010, at 1:31 AM, Mack McBride wrote:

> The 9K is an evolution of the 7600.
> The biggest differences are the newer DFC components and the XR code.
> The down side is the 9K is relatively new so there may be more bugs.
> And there are always plenty of bugs.
> 
> Mack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net 
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andris Zarinš
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:31 AM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Would You consider an ASR 9K as a reasonable (money and tech-wise) 
> upgrade to Cat7600? I understand that ASR9K scales way better than 
> c7600, and there should be lots of other reasons why ASR9K would be 
> more appropriate for SP core network... but I just can not gather 
> enough arguments to initiate an upgrade project so far. Box will be 
> used as SP backbone router, MPLS-P functionality, aggregating lots of 
> 10G feeds of data/voice/video (yes, VidMon should help here)
> 
> I'm wondering if I'm the only one who's got into the same situation or maybe its a popular challenge these days? If anybody has faced such choice at some point - it would be great if You could share your pros/cons and if its not a secret - your conclusion as well - is ASR9K worth a shot and if yes/no - why?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Andris
> 
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