[c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco

Kevin Cullimore kcullimo at runbox.com
Tue Aug 16 00:54:31 EDT 2011


On 8/13/2011 10:04 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> You know that's interesting, I've been following this thread but I 
> totally agree with you.  I very much like Juniper on the core side and 
> I really like their switches but it's hard to beat devices like the 
> 7200 for circuit aggregation at the edges.  Another place where I 
> think Cisco wins hands down is on the VPN side.  I really got to dig 
> in to the ASA product line during my last gig and with some help from 
> some really skilled folks on this list I really got pretty good with 
> the devices pretty fast.  I've used te Juniper SRX line for similar 
> functions and the ASA just makes more sense, at least to me.
>
> I just wish Cisco was wirespeed more than they are.
Juniper exists precisely because Cisco wasn't making adequate progress 
on this front during the late nineties.
>   I don't see providing someone a gig interface but only be able to 
> forward at a 3rd of that rate. Juniper does better in this area but 
> then again I've found Junos to be more buggy, in surprisingly basic 
> areas as well so it's a toss up.  I think your comment makes a lot of 
> sense.
>
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> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Finnesey
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:54 PM
> To: 'Derick Winkworth' ; 'Gert Doering'
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco
>
> If I have the option to engineer to our  requirements I would use 
> cisco at
> the edge and Juniper at the core.
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> Cheers
>
> Ryan
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> From: Derick Winkworth [mailto:dwinkworth at att.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: Gert Doering; Ryan Finnesey
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco
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> Engineer to your requirements.  Cisco and Juniper are good vendors to 
> have
> for variety.
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> Derick Winkworth
> CCIE #15672 (RS, SP), JNCIE-M #721
> http://blinking-network.blogspot.com
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>  _____
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> From: Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de>
> To: Ryan Finnesey <rfinnesey at gmail.com>
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 2:52:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:00:32PM -0400, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
>> What would be your preference between just Cisco or Juniper
>
> "depends on what you want to do with it"
>
> Recently, OS and TAC support quality at Juniper seriously went down the
> drain, so the original reason to want Juniper "high quality operating
> system and very motivated company to iron out the remaining wrinkles"
> seems to have been lost...
>
> OTOH, Cisco is still stuck in "we have too many operating systems and
> we spend half our resources with BU in-fighting" mode - which, I guess,
> will now be fixed by firing 10.000 folks from engineering so they won't
> get in the way of the in-fighting anymore...
>
> Right now, I'm not sure I'm trusting either company enough.
>
> gert



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