[c-nsp] ME3800X/ME3600X/ME3600X-24CX/ASR903/ASR901 Deployment Simplification Feedback

Waris Sagheer (waris) waris at cisco.com
Sun Jul 21 17:29:01 EDT 2013

Hi Mark,
Thanks for all the feedback.
Couple of questions and clarification,
- 48 gig port switch requirement, I suppose you also need 4x10Gig uplink along with 48 Gig port, correct?
- Per pop growth, I'll get get back to you with a solution to seek your feedback
- Can you give me an idea in terms of number of FIB entries requirement?
- Can you elaborate your comment "(particularly coming as close to the flexibility of what software routers like the 7200 can do)"? Any 7200 example functionality.

Best Regards,


Waris Sagheer
Technical Marketing Manager
Service Provider Access Group
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3800X/ME3600X/ME3600X-24CX/ASR903/ASR901 Deployment Simplification Feedback

On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 09:27:45 AM Waris Sagheer (waris)

Hi Everyone,
I have seen lot of good inputs on this mailer. I am
collecting feedback for the existing deployment
challenges on the following platforms so that we can
address them.

- I would like to see a variant of the ME3600X/3800X
  that provides for at least 4x 10Gbps SFP+ uplink

- I would like to see a variant of the ME3600X/3800X
  that provided for 48x Gig-E copper or fibre ports
  in a 1U chassis (I'll also take a 1.5U chassis if
  times are really hard). Yes, all at line rate :-).

- I would like to see a solution that allows for PoP
  growth. We've had scenarios where the number of
  ME3600X/3800X chassis has grown to a level to
  justify looking at a chassis (ASR9000 or
  MX480/960), but the line card costs alone still
  make stacking yet another ME3600X/3800X a
  commercially better idea, but lousy for
  operations. What can the team do to allow
  operators to grow ports and scale on a per-PoP
  basis while simplifying operations and keeping
  port costs down? I've never been drawn to
  virtual/multi-chassis systems, but... :-).

- I'm not very heavy on growing the FIB on the
  ME3600X/3800X systems, but any thought Cisco can
  put into this that doesn't make the cost of
  building the units outrageous would be much
  appreciated. This isn't critical for me; just a
  very nice-to-have.

In addition to what Nick and the others have already
mentioned, those are the things I'd like to see addressed,

For me, one of the things that pleases me most about the
ME3600X/3800X (apart from the fact that we can drop STP and
extend IP/MPLS into the Access) is that QoS is normal,
simple and behaves like a regular Cisco router. Additional
work and simplification in this area (particularly coming as
close to the flexibility of what software routers like the
7200 can do) would be much appreciated. You have no idea how
much it sucked running the 3750ME as a Metro-E IP/MPLS
Access platform and trying to do simple or complex QoS
strategies for customers and the core :-).

Many thanks for reaching out to the community about this,
Waris. It makes all the difference for us operators, and is
more of what we would like to see from our preferred



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