[c-nsp] Nexus 7707 as Internet Edge Router?

[Phil Bedard]

None of the folks in the target market for the NCS run EIGRP, at least not in their SP networks.  Most are asking for less features in software, not more. ISSU is also something the platform is not meant to support as it’s incredibly complex and prone to breaking things.  Like I said, first out it was targeted for large service provider and web companies. There are other things that come to the box first those providers are looking for like more powerful RPs, YANG models, streaming telemetry, no transceiver lock-in, etc.  It runs XR so the platform supports SP features including edge PE and core type functionality from small to large boxes.  The last SP I worked at we replaced edge 9Ks with the NCS since we didn’t need all the functionality of the 9K in those locations. There is still development left and it will never support all the functionality of XR on the 9K, but it’s getting there.  The platform isn’t going anywhere.  

Phil 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2017 at 03:27
To: Phil Bedard <philxor at gmail.com>
Cc: Rick Martin <rick.martin at arkansas.gov>, "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7707 as Internet Edge Router?

    Hi,
    
    On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:27:36PM -0400, Phil Bedard wrote:
    > Do you require something with redundant RPs?  The fixed NCS5001/NCS5501 would probably fit what you need well if you don???t.  The chassis based NCS systems are a bit overkill for your needs.  The NCS5XXX were mainly pitched to larger providers originally with their own account teams so I don???t think much info on them has trickled down to VARs yet.  If you have any questions let me know.  
    
    "Anything detailed" you have on the NCS5* would be welcome - the material
    on www.cisco.com is a bit sparse.
    
    Since we're considering to either go for QFX5100 or NCS5* for bandwidth
    expansion in our "core" (= no customer connections, no external connections,
    all 10G links, not much demand for QoS due to DWDM underlay where we can
    just add more bandwidth if needed), understanding how Cisco positions the
    NCS5001 series and whether this is a one-off thing that will be end-of-life
    next year ("remember the ME3600?") or something which is going to receive
    proper love and caring is one of the most important questions here...
    
    And then, what features it gets - the first list on cisco.com was 
    amazingly thin on details, but one of the interesting bits was "no 
    support for EIGRP", which I find highly astonishing - you have a vendor
    that has a nice customer-lock-in feature, purely control-plane (so, 
    no need to do hardware-specific coding), and they... forget to enable it?
    
    gert
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