[c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

adamv0025 at netconsultings.com adamv0025 at netconsultings.com
Tue Oct 29 08:45:09 EDT 2019


> From: Saku Ytti <saku at ytti.fi>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:41 AM
> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 13:24, <adamv0025 at netconsultings.com> wrote:
> 
> > Sure there's a BW rate above which NPU clearly wins, But for low BW
> > cases like the on in OP's case it's a no brainer even with massive server
> (total overkill for 10G) the 10G virtual is 8 times cheaper than the cheapest
> HW option.
> > I'm being vague on purpose here cause I think the list prices are under
> NDA.
> 
> I hear a lot of people buying MX204 for 15k and less, when they buy a single
> unit, unsure if loss leader to get people to try JNPR.
> Reasonable server like R840 set you back 7k. And then you actually have to
> buy the vMX, which will put it around the 10k?
> Obviously the Dell will have less ports and completely inferior performance
> and in networking shops much higher OPEX.
> 
> Considering how cheap CAPEX is, I just don't see it.
> 
No you're right I wasn't really comparing apples to apples.
I was looking at list prices of fully licensed HW and comparing with base license SW and there's also the different discount rate on SW vs HW that brings both closer together. 

But still I reckon one could do 100G with the R840 just fine, whereas OP would be fine with a few 1G ports, so if you tune the server HW for that (i.e. any old server would do)...
So all I'm saying is that sure mx204 vs vMX (both doing 400Gbps) -that's easy win for mx204
But mx204 vs vMX (both doing 4Gbps) -easy win for vMX I'd say

adam 



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