[cisco-voip] CallManager 5 license for VMWare

[Fred Nielsen]

VMware is not supported for production deployments, which is really the type
of scenario the DMA is intended to address.  However, CM5 does specifically
detect for and allow an install under VMware.  Cisco's mobile "demo in a
box" program is even being revamped to run under VMware with CM5.  Your
Cisco channel or sales team is able to get a limited use demo license for
you to run on VMware, with sufficient justification.
 
Understand I'm not defending Cisco's position on how difficult they have
made adoption with their licensing model (they *really* need to implement a
default demo license like Unity), just trying to point out what may be
possible.
 
-- Fred Nielsen

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:36 AM
To: cisco voip
Subject: [cisco-voip] CallManager 5 license for VMWare


OK, I am getting a LOT of people telling me to run DMA on a CallManager 4.1
and just go get a license for my CCM5.0(4) installation on VMWare.

Well, I finally actually tried it, and all of my fears have been realized
and here is a formal response to all. 

When you go to get the license, you get the following after entering a MAC
that begins with 005056.... 

"Please Enter a Valid MAC Address"

So, there it is. VMWare is supported by the application (you can install,
but cannot activate any services, so you can't do any training on your own).
And completely unsupported for testing purposes. 

Here's the funny part.

I use VMWare to ensure that my backups work (I restore my backup twice a
month to a VMWare box running 4.1(3) to make sure the data migrated). Since
I can't do that with CallManager 5, and since I cannot install CallManager 5
in my lab (we are not going to buy a dedicated 7835 just for testing and
training), I am forced to recommend to all of my customers NOT to install
CallManager 5 and to stick with 4.1 and 4.2.

I would strongly urge Cisco to remedy this situation and provide partners
with a two-node, ten-phone 30-day training license for VMWare.



Jonathan


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