[cisco-voip] Venting about Java

Simon, Bill BillS at tns.its.psu.edu
Tue May 2 16:26:05 EDT 2006


Hi Geoff, thanks for the info.  All along I'd been sticking to the Microsoft
VM for CCM Admin because "that's the way it's supposed to be" - but if it
works with Sun's VM that may help remove one piece from the mess.  

Unity Admin loads Java on any screen where the Media Master control exists
(e.g. recorded greeting recording and playback using web controls and sound
card or through a VM port)

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Bill Simon - bills at tns.its.psu.edu - (814) 865-2270
http://tns.its.psu.edu/

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes, Geoff [mailto:GRhodes at rbh.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:23 PM
> To: Simon, Bill
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Venting about Java
> 
> I run CCM Admin using Sun's Java, Version 1.5.0 (build 
> 1.5.0_04-b05 and
> it works fine.  Unity Admin doesn't seem to load any Java on 
> my machine.
> RTMT seems to use JRE 1.4.2_05.  I don't run IPCC Realtime, so that
> could be a problem for sure.
> 
> Anyway, I agree they need to standardize on a Sun version and 
> stick with
> it.
> 
> - Geoff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Simon, Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:23 PM
> To: 'cisco-voip at puck.nether.net'
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Venting about Java
> 
> The incompatibilities between Java Runtimes needed for various Cisco
> VoIP components are killing me.  I've been griping at a TAC guy for a
> few days now but I see that it is probably hopeless.  All I'm probably
> doing is frustrating him, too.
> 
> So what's a systems administrator to do?  I have a system set up for
> remote admin and would like to use it for CallManager Administration,
> CCM Realtime Monitoring Tool, Unity Admin, and IPCC Express admin and
> Realtime Reporting.
> 
> CCM Administration only seem to work with Microsoft Java.  
> (Unity too.)
> 
> RTMT installs JRE 1.5.0-something and uses that.
> 
> IPCC Realtime Reporting INSISTS on JRE 1.3.1.
> 
> If I install all three of these, nothing works.  They all see 
> the other
> runtimes and barf or complain.  RTMT might work, actually, 
> but what good
> is this if CCM Admin doesn't work!
> 
> Right now I'm down to having the MS Java runtime and JRE 1.5 
> installed,
> coexisting nicely, with APPLET settings turned completely off for the
> Sun JRE so that the Microsoft one is invoked by IE for CCM Admin.  And
> RTMT works.  But I see no way to get IPCC Realtime Reporting to work.
> 
> The TAC guy told me just to log into the consoles of each server to
> administer.  ha!  I sent him back to the drawing board after 
> that answer
> but I don't know that anything better will come back.
> 
> Bill
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