[cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Mon May 7 10:40:21 EDT 2007

Yes, please let me know.

Thanks,

Chris

From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:ealeatherman at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:37 AM
To: Christopher M. Bomba
Cc: Matt Slaga (US); cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

We're doing a mock upgrade this week in the lab, I'll see what it does. I've been told both things also.

We're loading one of our BARS backups onto a test server and then doing the upgrade process on it.. so should be very obvious if it gives me licenses for all the unregistered devices on the cluster or just the few that we endup plugging up in the lab. 

On 5/7/07, Christopher M. Bomba <cbomba at s4nets.com> wrote:

That is good.  I was told both.  It would have been a shame to see people
abusing this.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com ]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:12 AM
To: cbomba at s4nets.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Actually, this is not the case.  It will only generate DLUs for phones
that are registered with the CallManager server.  It will skip any
device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list. 

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Christopher M.
Bomba
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Who said you had to buy the phones.  You can just put phones in with
bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those.  I thought they
had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in 
the system.  You can create IP communicators or any other phone to boost
the DLUs.  That is a big problem since anybody can do this.

Chris

--original message--

thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and 
they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when
given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what
configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the
lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then
setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for
free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.

Thanks and Best Regards 

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

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From: Ed Leatherman [mailto: <mailto:ealeatherman at gmail.com>  ealeatherman at gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

hi Ahmed,

When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all
the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you
just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it 
converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If
its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm
assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. 

We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our
4.1 system.

Hope that helps.

Ed

On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <aelnagar at act-eg.com > wrote:

        Hello all;

        A customer wants to upgrade from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am
worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for
callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the 
DLUs??

        Thanks and Best Regards

        Ahmed A. Elnagar
        Network Field Engineer

        Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
        16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt
        Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

        Mob : +2010-2833868
        Website: www.act-eg.com <http://www.act-eg.com/ >
        E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

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