[cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Tue May 8 00:54:55 EDT 2007

You mean 'Unknown'... that is probable....

To be honest, I would suspect they would not carry the licenses over for
phones that are in an unknown state... but unregistered doesn't make
sense... what if a phone is at a remote site and the wan is down while you
are doing the upgrade, do you just get hosed?

Jonathan

On 5/7/07, CarlosOrtiz at bayviewfinancial.com <
CarlosOrtiz at bayviewfinancial.com> wrote:
>
>
> Could it be that phones that were at least registered before and now
> offline are ok, but phones that are "not found" meaning never registered to
> the system are not?
>
> Carlos
>
>
>  *"Matt Slaga \(US\)" <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>*
> Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
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> 05/07/2007 12:12 PM
>   To
> "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>  cc
> cbomba at s4nets.com, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net  Subject
> Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Interesting.  Cisco was hit hard on this at the UC 6.0 Partner Beta
> training, and the IPC BU repeated many times that the phones had to be
> registered to be counted in the license file.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com] *
> Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2007 11:59 AM*
> To:* Matt Slaga (US)*
> Cc:* cbomba at s4nets.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net*
> Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1
>
> This is NOT true.
>
> I just did an upgrade (3.3 to 5.1)... and we built a new server with
> CCM3.3, restored the backup (in a lab, no phones present), upgraded to 4.1,
> ran DMA and upgraded to 5.1 and restored the DMA data.
>
> The license was for all of the phones configured (zero phones were
> registered at the time DMA was run), and the customer had a full upgrade
> license for all configured phones.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> On 5/7/07, *Matt Slaga (US)* <*Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com*<Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>>
> wrote:
> Actually, this is not the case.  It will only generate DLUs for phones
> that are registered with the CallManager server.  It will skip any
> device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: *cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net*<cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
> [mailto:*cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net *<cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>]
> On Behalf Of Christopher M.
> Bomba
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM
> To: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net* <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1
>
> Who said you had to buy the phones.  You can just put phones in with
> bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those.  I thought they
> had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in
> the system.  You can create IP communicators or any other phone to boost
> the DLUs.  That is a big problem since anybody can do this.
>
> Chris
>
> --original message--
>
> thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and
> they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when
> given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what
> configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the
> lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then
> setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for
> free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards
>
> Ahmed A. Elnagar
> Network Field Engineer
>
> Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
> 16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
> Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt
>
> Mob: +2010-2833868
> Website: *www.act-eg.com* <http://www.act-eg.com/>
> E-mail: *aelnagar at act-eg.com* <aelnagar at act-eg.com>
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> ________________________________
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> From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:* ealeatherman at gmail.com*<ealeatherman at gmail.com>
> ]
> Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM
> To: Ahmed Elnagar
> Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net* <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1
>
>
> hi Ahmed,
>
> When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all
> the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you
> just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it
> converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If
> its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm
> assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it.
>
> We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our
> 4.1 system.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <*aelnagar at act-eg.com * <aelnagar at act-eg.com>>
> wrote:
>
>        Hello all;
>
>        A customer wants to upgrade from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am
> worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for
> callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the
> DLUs??
>
>
>        Thanks and Best Regards
>
>        Ahmed A. Elnagar
>        Network Field Engineer
>
>        Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
>        16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt
>        Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt
>
>        Mob : +2010-2833868
>        Website: *www.act-eg.com* <http://www.act-eg.com/> <*
> http://www.act-eg.com/* <http://www.act-eg.com/> >
>        E-mail: *aelnagar at act-eg.com* <aelnagar at act-eg.com>
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