[cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Mon May 7 12:29:39 EDT 2007

Could it be that phones that were at least registered before and now 
offline are ok, but phones that are "not found" meaning never registered 
to the system are not?

Carlos

"Matt Slaga \(US\)" <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> 
Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
05/07/2007 12:12 PM

To
"Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>
cc
cbomba at s4nets.com, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject
Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Interesting.  Cisco was hit hard on this at the UC 6.0 Partner Beta 
training, and the IPC BU repeated many times that the phones had to be 
registered to be counted in the license file.

From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:59 AM
To: Matt Slaga (US)
Cc: cbomba at s4nets.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

This is NOT true.

I just did an upgrade (3.3 to 5.1)... and we built a new server with 
CCM3.3, restored the backup (in a lab, no phones present), upgraded to 
4.1, ran DMA and upgraded to 5.1 and restored the DMA data. 

The license was for all of the phones configured (zero phones were 
registered at the time DMA was run), and the customer had a full upgrade 
license for all configured phones.

Jonathan
On 5/7/07, Matt Slaga (US) <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> wrote:
Actually, this is not the case.  It will only generate DLUs for phones
that are registered with the CallManager server.  It will skip any
device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Christopher M.
Bomba
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Who said you had to buy the phones.  You can just put phones in with
bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those.  I thought they
had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in 
the system.  You can create IP communicators or any other phone to boost
the DLUs.  That is a big problem since anybody can do this.

Chris

--original message--

thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and 
they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when
given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what
configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the
lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then
setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for
free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.

Thanks and Best Regards 

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

________________________________

From: Ed Leatherman [mailto: ealeatherman at gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

hi Ahmed,

When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all
the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you
just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it 
converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If
its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm
assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. 

We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our
4.1 system.

Hope that helps.

Ed

On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <aelnagar at act-eg.com > wrote:

        Hello all;

        A customer wants to upgrade from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am
worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for
callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the 
DLUs??

        Thanks and Best Regards

        Ahmed A. Elnagar
        Network Field Engineer

        Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
        16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt
        Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

        Mob : +2010-2833868
        Website: www.act-eg.com <http://www.act-eg.com/ >
        E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

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Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer 
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations
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