[cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone

[Scott Voll]

not a different BU..... out sourced is my guess.  it's the same issue the
VARs deal with on a daily basis.  the left hand doesn't have a clue about
the right foot is doing and the head has no clue about what any of the feet
or hands are doing.

Scott

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> maybe because documentation group is a different BU? ;)
>
> *ouch*
>
> sorry guys.
>
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Reimers" <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Jason Fuermann" <
> JBF005 at shsu.edu>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net, "Matthew Loraditch" <
> MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2009 10:04:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
> I wish Cisco (note to Wes and Ryan)
> was as good as Microsoft is at listing which exact product and IOS versions
> that a particular document was meant for.
>
> Too many pages on their site show things that only work on older hardware
> or IOS.
> And yes, some pages do mention "lab tested with 12.2 code, factory
> defaults"
>
> But that's not the same as listing out all the versions of code and types
> of hardware that would support a given set of commands or configuration.
>
> Microsoft does it --- Cisco is ten times better than Microsoft.
>
> Why does Cisco have to be the BellSouth dinosaur, years behind the mark on
> documentation relevance and accuracy
> when even Microsoft can do better?
>
>
> Tim Reimers
> Systems Analyst II
> Information Technology Services
> City of Asheville
> 70 Court Plaza
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> treimers at ashevillenc.gov <timreimers at ashevillenc.gov>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 8:49 PM
> *To:* Jason Fuermann
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Matthew Loraditch; Tim Reimers
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
>  Thanks for following up Jason. I've seen on more than one occassion
> documentation saying one thing, then revised to say another. Personally, I
> know that documentation can be hard to keep up to date, but you'd think
> something as simple as whether or not a phone model is supported would be
> fairly easy. ;)
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Fuermann" <JBF005 at shsu.edu>
> To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "Tim Reimers"
> <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2009 5:19:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
>  Well I found the case and the compatibility matrix I was given.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp1627480
>
>
>
> However, it is looking supported, but the release notes say it was changed
>
> 5/29/09
>
> Revised information about upgrading from Cisco Unified Communications
> Manager Release 5.1(3x) to 7.1(2) in Table 4<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp108792>.
> Revised information on Cisco Unified IP Conference Station 7936G Firmware
> Version 3.3(10) - SCCP. Replaced Cisco Unified Personal Communicator<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp56480>compatibility table in this matrix with cross-reference to compatibility
> matrix for that product. Revised Table 62<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp57448>to add Data Migration Assistant (DMA) Release 7.1(2).
>
>
>
> Good to know I guess…(my case was on 7/29/08)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Loraditch [mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 4:04 PM
> *To:* Tim Reimers; Lelio Fulgenzi; Fuermann, Jason
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
>
>
> Well what I had noticed is that it appears they finally removed the
> character limit on passwords. When I originally typed in my password when I
> setup my account it was 10 characters, until yesterday a shortened version
> always worked today  I saw the new signon screen and the 10 character
> version was required.. which is kinda scary as I think it means the old
> passwords couldn’t have been hashed….
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Tim Reimers
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 4:47 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi; Jason Fuermann
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
>
>
> Cisco's website is having issues-
>
>
>
> I just had to call and get mine reset to get an IOS image downloaded.
>
>
>
> Couldn't even get logged in, they had to reset my CCO pwd myself.
>
>
>
> They say they'll have it fixed later on...
>
>
>
> Tim Reimers
>
> Systems Analyst II
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> City of Asheville
>
> 70 Court Plaza
>
> Asheville, NC 28801
>
> phone - 828-259-5512
>
> treimers at ashevillenc.gov <timreimers at ashevillenc.gov>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 4:45 PM
> *To:* Jason Fuermann
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
> Thanks Jason. It would be good to know what they said. I know that TAC is
> by the letter, so for example, they may say that 7912 is not supported on
> 7.1(3) b/c of EOL, but we're pretty sure it will work. Or at least we hope
> so, with 4000 of them. ;)
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Fuermann" <JBF005 at shsu.edu>
> To: "ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> >
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2009 4:35:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
> I'm looking for the TAC case (have to reset my password, and it is taking
> forever). Maybe I remembered the model # wrong. I'll let you know when I
> find it
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccieid1ot [mailto:ccieid1ot at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:16 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: Fuermann, Jason; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
>
> Lelio,
>
> Usually they talk out of their anus.  That's how they came up with it.  :P
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> > How did you come to this conclusion?
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp43813
> >
> > shows default loads for 7935 for 5/6/7 which typically means it's
> > compatible.
> >
> > http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/vtgsca/VTGServlet also shows it's
> compatible.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Fuermann" <JBF005 at shsu.edu>
> > To: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>, "Robert Shearrill"
> > <rshearri at uchicago.edu>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2009 3:08:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
> >
> > Also 7935 is not compatible with anything CUCM  6 up (probably 5 as
> well). I
> > don't have quick access to the compatibility matrix or I would link it.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]<%5Bmailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net%5D>On Behalf Of Matt Slaga (US)
> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:58 PM
> > To: Robert Shearrill; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
> >
> >
> >
> > I know with the older 7935s, you had to set the voice vlan manually to
> > initially get configured.  Once they get correct firmware, you can put
> the
> > switch ports back to normal.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]<%5Bmailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net%5D>On Behalf Of Robert Shearrill
> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:46 PM
> > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [cisco-voip] 7936 voip phone
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone experiencing 7936 phone not registering. showing unknown in cucm.
> the
> > phones that i am having problems with are older phones.part number
> > 74-3429-02.. let me know please
> >
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