[cisco-voip] CUPC without AD?

[Jonathan Charles]

Ben confirmed no AD/LDAP or DNS on the CCIE V lab at Networkers, 2009.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Voice Noob<voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also the new version of CUPS supports a diffrent LDAP server then just AD.
> Some open ldap or something like that. YOu can problably find it in the
> release notes. you still need an LDAP server it just supports more than AD.
> I would be you anything that there is some type of LDAP server that you do
> not have access to in the CCIE Voice lab.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think I need to find a guide for integrating CUPS with CUCM without
>> AD or DNS... if there is such a thing...
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jonathan Charles<jonvoip at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > No Presence Information After Login
>> > Solution
>> >
>> > Complete these steps:
>> >
>> >   1.
>> >
>> >      Ensure that the DNS server the PC is pointed to can resolve the
>> > fully qualified name of the CUPS server.
>> >
>> >      The host entry will not suffice, you must resolve via DNS.
>> >   2.
>> >
>> >      Check the SUBSCRIBE CSS on the SIP trunk to CUP.
>> >
>> >      This CSS must include the partitions of the devices you are
>> > trying to receive status on.
>> >   3.
>> >
>> >      The CUP SIP proxy incoming access control list (ACL) is not
>> > allowing incoming SIP presence messages to reach the presence engine.
>> > As a test, set the incoming ACL to ALL and reset the SIP proxy and
>> > presence engine. Then, re-login to the CUPC. After this, you can try
>> > to reconfigure the incoming ACL properly.
>> >
>> >
>> > Interestingly, there is no DNS on the lab either...
>> >
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>> >> Check the troubleshooting guide for CUPC.  You have to get presence
>> >> before
>> >> you can IM.
>> >>
>> >> -Ryan
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I can get CUPC to control phones, I can login with CUCM
>> >> credentials...  but no IM, and no presence stuff...
>> >>
>> >> J
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It may not.  The 7.0 deployment guide actually mentions that you can
>> >>> integrate CUCM with AD and not CUPS but it is not recommended as it
>> >>> basically neuters CUPC and causes performance issues.  It also notes
>> >>> that
>> >>> if
>> >>> CUCM ldap authentication is enabled CUPC will use CUCM for
>> >>> authentication
>> >>> (because CUPS syncs the enduser table from CUCM) so maybe it will
>> >>> work,
>> >>> but
>> >>> not well.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Ryan
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Wait, the CCIE V lab uses CUPS and CUPC but does not have AD... so no
>> >>> LDAP... how does CUPC work then?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> J
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Welcome to CUPS :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As I said CUCM is no longer an ldap server so you will need to build
>> >>>> an
>> >>>> ldap
>> >>>> to point CUPS to.  If you don't want to do ldap sync on CUCM then the
>> >>>> userids must be the same in ldap server CUPS is using and in CUCM.
>> >>>>  You
>> >>>> also
>> >>>> cannot add contacts via CUPC when CUCM is not enabled for ldap sync
>> >>>> (you
>> >>>> have to use the CUPS User pages).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Ryan
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:10 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, I have CUCM 7 and CUPS 7 and I want to be able to query CUCM
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> users from CUPC (so I can add users, etc...)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CUCM is NOT AD integrated, and I want to set up CUPS to  point at
>> >>>> CUCM...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jonathan
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Since CUPS is not supported with any Windows-based CUCM I seriously
>> >>>>> doubt
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> was ever tested using DCD as the ldap source.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> CUPS does _require_ ldap.  The ldap source can be anything that CUCM
>> >>>>> supports (AD, ND, etc).  Any CUCM that supports CUPS is not an ldap
>> >>>>> server.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Ryan
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> How do you configure it?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Do you set up LDAP to point to CUCM?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cuz I cannot search for users in DC Directory (CUCM) for CUPC.... am
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> missing something?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> J
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