[cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...

Thu Jun 18 16:25:37 EDT 2009

As i described, i could not find any other option except changing CSS. I'm
not expert on this topic but as i figured out, CSS contains partitions and
partitions contains route patterns. So if formulized in a cluster, the issue
seems like this:

CSS>partition>route pattern.

So all of our phones' dial rules (route patterns in other words) are
described into CSS which are selected in DN settings.

I looked at Class of Control but i could not find anything.

Let me explain my situation again, maybe there are some other ways to solve
this issue.

When our shift ends at work (it's about 18:30), i would like to block all
the phones' outgoing calls except interior. In other words, after a
specified time of day (let's call it 19:00), only interior calls have to be
made. If you read my older posts, our phones are not in partitions, just CSS
describes their calling ability. I'm going to put some pictures of the CM
when i get back to work, maybe the issue could be understood easier.

thanks in advance.
CEM

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Chris Ward (chrward) <chrward at cisco.com>wrote:

> I saw a response early in this thread that was not directly replied to.
> Why won't Time of Day routing fulfill your requirements?
>
> -Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
> (rratliff)
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:40 AM
> To: cem caglayan
> Cc: cisco-voip Voip
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...
>
> If you truly want to change all phones' CSS to None and back to their
> original value on a scheduled basis you would have to script this via
> AXL.  You would need to first discover all the lines and note their
> current CSS.  Then update all of those lines to use CSS None.  When
> it comes time to revert you change the CSS back to the value you
> discovered (and stored) originally.
>
> As Lelio said if you can provide more details about the policy you
> are trying to implement there is a very good chance it can be done in
> a way that doesn't require changing all of your phone configurations
> each night.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> I think you'll find yourself in a mess of trouble trying to do it by
> changing the calling search space. The timed based partitions is
> probably your best bet.
>
> Remember, the partition the phone is in has nothing to do with the
> partitions it can reach.
>
> Please explain your set up a bit more for us, and we'll try to help
> with suggestions using time based partitions. I haven't used them
> much, but it's fairly easy from what I recall.
>
> The one thing I always forget is when the <none> partition is
> searched. I can't remember if it is searched after all the other
> partitions only if no other match is found, or if it is searched in
> order and best match rules apply.
>
> For the long term sanity of your setup, I'd strongly suggest moving
> your DNs to a partition. It's easier to manage things like that.
>
> You'll also have to let us know what you are trying to block, access
> to phones or access to off-net? And what dial plan strategy are you
> using? allow with device and block with DN, or just allow with device?
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Back" <Michael.Back at nisd.net>
> To: "Daniel" <dan.voip at danofive.id.au>, "cem caglayan"
> <cem.caglayan at gmail.com>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:27:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...
>
> You could try extension mobility.  Make sure the phone CSS is most
> restrictive, and put the appropriate CSS on the line like you are
> currently doing.  You can set a timer for Extension Mobility to log out
> after a specified period.
>
> MB
>
>  >>> cem caglayan <cem.caglayan at gmail.com> 6/18/2009 5:55 AM >>>
> First of all thanks for the tip Dan,
>
> The main problem is, we do not have any partitions which all the
> phones
> assigned to..
>
> Our dial rules are described in "Calling Search Spaces" which consist 4
> or
> more partitions. Besides, all the phones' Calling Search Spaces are
> setted
> into the directory number configuration. I've found how to change all
> the
> phones' Calling Search Spaces to the desired value under the "Bulk
> Administration>Phones>Add/Update Lines>Update Lines" section.
>
> But the main problem is, we have 3 PRI lines and 12 GSM lines connected
> to
> CM via PRI by 2N Stargate. And as i described, all the phones' Calling
> Search Spaces are not the same at all. For example my phone can call
> GSM and
> landlines, but my manager's can call international including my dial
> rule.
> My Calling Search Space is "Landlines and GSM" but my manager's
> "International Calls (which means everywhere can be called)".
>
> So in brief, the problem is when i set all these phones' calling
> search
> space to NONE on a scheduled job. How can i restore them to their
> original
> values??
>
> By the way i have found to backup all the phone settings under "Bulk
> Administration>Phones>Export Phones>All Details". But it stores the
> data in
> a TXT file. So i can not restore from that backup.
>
> Is there any way to fullfill according to my CUCM 6.0 profile???
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Daniel <dan.voip at danofive.id.au>
> wrote:
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Have you looked into time periods and schedules?
>  >
>  > Apply a time schedule to a partition to allow access only during a
> certain
>  > time period.
>  >
>  > cheers,
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM, cem caglayan
> <cem.caglayan at gmail.com>wrote:
>  >
>  >> Hi all,
>  >>
>  >> I want to set some (about 300) users' calling search space to be set
> to
>  >> "none" after shift and bring them to their original values in the
>  >> morning,because of company policy. Is there any way to do this
> automatically
>  >> or can this action be scheduled? Because, as you know, it is very
> difficult
>  >> to set all these users' settings to desired one and bring them back
> to old
>  >> values. I looked at some features including Job scheduler and
> Enterprise
>  >> settings but no use.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Thanks in advance.
>  >>
>  >> Cem
>  >>
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