[cisco-voip] call manager licensing

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Don't think of it as a penalty, think of it as a price break. ;) 

If you buy a 7815 for $1000 which has a potential to service 100 phones (remember, you still have to buy the licenses for those 100 phones), if you move to a 7845 that can service up to 5000 phones, the software is worth more because it can do more. 

It's like comparing Windows 2000 Server base to Windows 2000 Server Enterprise/Data Centre. 

The part that irked me more was the "migration" charge moving from one server to another server in the same class! 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Aarons (US)" <jason.aarons at us.didata.com> 
To: "Mike O" <mikeeo at msn.com>, "Edward Countryman" <Edward.Countryman at provena.org>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:44:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] call manager licensing 




I’ve never understood why the penalty for using better hardware. i.e. 7825 vs 7845. I want the highest end fully redundant hardware even if my customer is small, yet the Linux Node licensing costs prevent that. Small shops end up buying something with single EIDE drives that have controller failures! 



I miss the Good O’l days. Next stop will be service bits having to be enabled by TAC before you can make some changes. 





From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike O 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:02 PM 
To: Countryman, Edward; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] call manager licensing 




Ed, 





In regards to ESW & UCSS you need both in order to be complaint and eligible for upgrades. UCSS ties to the ESW contract # for the given product and when you register UCSS you must input the ESW contract #. 





UCSS for Call Manager is based on node licenses for example a 7816-CCM SKU comes with a CCM node license for 500 users and the corresponding UCSS sku and ESW would be for 500 users. If you used the PUT tool you would receive a CM PAK key for 500 users. If you purchased CUWL you would be required to purchase ESW&UCSS for 3 years as its bundled with CUWL. 











HTH, 


Mike 




----- Original Message ----- 


From: Countryman, Edward 


To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 


Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:17 AM 


Subject: [cisco-voip] call manager licensing 




Ever since we upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1 last spring I have been confused about how CCM licensing from Cisco works, what is really needed etc. I know I need DLU’s for phones and I think I understand that. What confuses me is how the server nodes are licensed and how ESW, UCSS is licensed. There is a persistent reference to “number of users” however no where can I find a definition of “user” for this purpose. Can anyone give me the “101” on call manager licensing, ESW and UCSS? 



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