[cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Fri Sep 11 16:56:43 EDT 2009


They're either going to link to exchange to provide UM or they'll use their PostPath acquisition to deploy their own solution. 



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob at gmail.com> 
To: "Nate VanMaren" <VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org>, "Eric Isakson" <eric.isakson at ogdenclinic.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:47:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 




Guys at some point soon I have to believe that connection will be just as good as Unity is now with the tie into the exchange store. Everyone knows how bad integrated is compared to Unified. You have to assume that they are not going to let MS beat them on this and will have a way that the voicemails are stored in exchange. I would suggest you evaluate your decision thoroughly before making a jump like that. 





From: Nate VanMaren [mailto:VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org] 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:43 PM 
To: Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi' 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 



We and BYU both are on Exchange 2007 UM, they migrated from Unity while we are migrating from Octel. 



The short answer really is, if you want Unified Messaging you’re only strategic answer is Microsoft. If you’re ok with Integrated Messaging , then you can settle for Unity Connection or Unity Express. 



I’ve had quite a few conversations with people at Cisco about Unity and Microsoft Exchange UM. Exchange UM surprised everyone that is was so good it’s first release. And while they may say they are not abandoning Unity, that doesn’t mean that it will stay or even become current with features. Just like the 2 nd Gen IP Phones, the 7940/7960. I believe the main reason these are still sold is because they would make way too many people upset when they say, oh these are now EOS and you have 5 years support left for them. 



We’re doing Unity Express or connection in the field because we don’t have local mail stores; and most of these aren’t even doing integrated messaging they’re just voicemail, because Integrated messaging is so much harder to deal with than unified messaging. 



Just my opinion. 

-Nate 









From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM 
To: 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi' 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 



Why is it a bad decision? What would cause you to drop connection completely? 





From: Eric Isakson [mailto:eric.isakson at ogdenclinic.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:24 PM 
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; Voice Noob 
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 



I’m fairly certain that they announced that Unity 8 will be the last version of Unity. After that, it will be Unity Connection or Unity Express. This is what we were told by Cisco reps at a recent Tech Day here in Utah. Our partners have verified the same. 



We see this as a bad decision and will probably result in our moving to Exchange for voice messaging and such once MS catches up or comes closer with features. 





Eric Isakson | Network Engineer | Information Technology Dept. | Ogden Clinic | eric.isakson at ogdenclinic.com | 801.475.3572 





From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:03 PM 
To: Voice Noob 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 




I got a similar "feeling" from a few conferences I attended. They're not going to discontinue or stop developing Unity, but I think the bulk of effort will be into Unity Connection. For example, you'll likely see features in Unity Connection first, then ported to Unity. Of course, none of this can be verified or confirmed and can change on the drop of a dime, just like other things. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "Cristobal Priego" <cristobalpriego at gmail.com>, "Rossella Mariotti-Jones" <rossella.mariotti.jones at chemeketa.edu> 
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:42:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 

Until they get feature parity with Unity I don’t think they will stop. 





From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35 PM 
To: Cristobal Priego; Rossella Mariotti-Jones 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 



Unity 8 is coming, there is a beta going on now and per a post on the NetPro forums it will have new features 





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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Cristobal Priego 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:20 PM 
To: Rossella Mariotti-Jones 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010 



as far as I know the development for Unity is going to stop with version 7.X . all the efforts are focused on unity connection 

maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i know. 


2009/9/11 Rossella Mariotti-Jones < rossella.mariotti.jones at chemeketa.edu > 



Currently we use Microsoft Exchange 2003 with Cisco Unity version 5.0(1) and there is talk in our organization to upgrade to Exchange 2010 next year, I see Unity 7 supports Exchange 2007 but I can’t find anything about Exchange 2010, is this possible? Does anyone know anything about it? Thanks in advance. 



rossella 




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