[cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010

[Scott Voll]

We are also evaluating jumping ship from Unity UM to Exchange 2k7.  The
smartnet + UCCS subscriptions are to much......... for a product (Voice
Mail) that shouldn't cost 1/2 what it does.
I had a conversation with the Unity PM and BU about it......... I don't
think they knew what to say.

with a SLA from M$ it doesn't make sense to stay with ci$co for UM.  and if
exchange 2k10 has call handlers.......... we will move no question.

Scott

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Guys at some point soon I have to believe that connection will be just as
> good as Unity is now with the tie into the exchange store. Everyone knows
> how bad integrated is compared to Unified. You have to assume that they are
> not going to let MS beat them on this and will have a way that the
> voicemails are stored in exchange. I would suggest you evaluate your
> decision thoroughly before making a jump like that.
>
>
>
> *From:* Nate VanMaren [mailto:VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 3:43 PM
> *To:* Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'
>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
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>
> We and BYU both are on Exchange 2007 UM, they migrated from Unity while we
> are migrating from Octel.
>
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>
> The short answer really is, if you want *Unified Messaging* you’re only
> strategic answer is Microsoft.  If you’re ok with *Integrated Messaging*,
> then you can settle for Unity Connection or Unity Express.
>
>
>
> I’ve had quite a few conversations with people at Cisco about Unity and
> Microsoft Exchange UM.  Exchange UM surprised everyone that is was so good
> it’s first release.  And while they may say they are not abandoning Unity,
> that doesn’t mean that it will stay or even become current with features.
> Just like the 2nd Gen IP Phones, the 7940/7960.  I believe the main reason
> these are still sold is because they would make way too many people upset
> when they say, oh these are now EOS and you have 5 years support left for
> them.
>
>
>
> We’re doing Unity Express  or connection in the field because we don’t have
> local mail stores; and most of these aren’t even doing integrated messaging
> they’re just voicemail, because Integrated messaging is so much harder to
> deal with than unified messaging.
>
>
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> -Nate
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Voice Noob
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM
> *To:* 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> Why is it a bad decision? What would cause you to drop connection
> completely?
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Isakson [mailto:eric.isakson at ogdenclinic.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 3:24 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi; Voice Noob
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> I’m fairly certain that they announced that Unity 8 will be the last
> version of Unity.  After that, it will be Unity Connection or Unity
> Express.  This is what we were told by Cisco reps at a recent Tech Day here
> in Utah.  Our partners have verified the same.
>
>
>
> We see this as a bad decision and will probably result in our moving to
> Exchange for voice messaging and such once MS catches up or comes closer
> with features.
>
>
>
> Eric Isakson | Network Engineer | Information Technology Dept. | Ogden
> Clinic | *eric.isakson at ogdenclinic.com* | 801.475.3572
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 2:03 PM
> *To:* Voice Noob
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> I got a similar "feeling" from a few conferences I attended. They're not
> going to discontinue or stop developing Unity, but I think the bulk of
> effort will be into Unity Connection. For example, you'll likely see
> features in Unity Connection first, then ported to Unity. Of course, none of
> this can be verified or confirmed and can change on the drop of a dime, just
> like other things.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob at gmail.com>
> To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "Cristobal
> Priego" <cristobalpriego at gmail.com>, "Rossella Mariotti-Jones" <
> rossella.mariotti.jones at chemeketa.edu>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:42:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
> Until they get feature parity with Unity I don’t think they will stop.
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Loraditch
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35 PM
> *To:* Cristobal Priego; Rossella Mariotti-Jones
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> Unity 8 is coming, there is  a beta going on now and per a post on the
> NetPro forums it will have new features
>
>
>
>
>
> *Matthew Loraditch*
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Cristobal Priego
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 2:20 PM
> *To:* Rossella Mariotti-Jones
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010
>
>
>
> as far as I know the development for Unity is going to stop with version
> 7.X . all the efforts are focused on unity connection
>
> maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i know.
>
> 2009/9/11 Rossella Mariotti-Jones <rossella.mariotti.jones at chemeketa.edu>
>
> Currently we use Microsoft Exchange 2003 with Cisco Unity version 5.0(1)
> and there is talk in our organization to upgrade to Exchange 2010 next year,
> I see Unity 7 supports Exchange 2007 but I can’t find anything about
> Exchange 2010, is this possible? Does anyone know anything about it? Thanks
> in advance.
>
>
>
> rossella
>
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