[cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

Sat Dec 11 12:39:54 EST 2010

They want you to buy into UCSS. More even revenue stream for them

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From: Lelio Fulgenzi [lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Received: Saturday, 11 Dec 2010, 12:21pm
To: Ahmed Elnagar [ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com]
CC: voyp list [cisco-voip at puck.nether.net]
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

I think we would be less concerned with the multitude of versions if they continued supporting the older versions. There are many bugs in v7.x which they simply say fixed in v8.x. There is no EOL on v7 yet, why not fix these bugs in the version that is still alive?

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On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:59 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:

I totally agree with you…FYI version 9 is released internally I think in cisco and seems that Cisco engineers are working on it to figure out any bugs in it ☺
If you use Bug tool kit you will see an option for CUCM version 9 :D

Regarding the hop from 8.0 to 8.5 I think there is some reason for that as it was the same for 7 as they released 7.1.5 before 7.1.4 ever exists…I don’t know but seems there is a core change with that version “other than the restricted and unrestricted part I don’t see any significant change”

For us who deploy CUCM…sure we are not enjoying this nightmare ☹

Best Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice

From: David Zhars [mailto:dzhars at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:32 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi; voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

What is up with Cisco's rapid version increases with CM?  My gawd, 4 years ago we had 4.1, then 5 (seemed short lived),then 6 (didn't seem to be the new guy on the block very long either), then 7 (which I was told would be the one that was real stable and would hang around awhile).  Before I knew it, we had 8, now we have 8.5!!!  Am I correct to assume there was no 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4??
I wish they would slow down the versioning just a bit!
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Ahmed Elnagar <<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:
We have a rule here through Cisco that no product is sold without a maintenance contract “Smart net or Co-brand as I remember” so this is always a valid option.

And BTW just checked CCO and the version 8.5(1) just released 7-DEC.

Best Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:57 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: Bill Talley; voyp list

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

By license, I meant "right to upgrade". Upgrading from 8.0 to 8.5 is not free per se, you need to be on a maintenance contract of some type.

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On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:51 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:
I think there will be no difference in the license for 8.5 if you have 8.x then you can run any version of CUCM 8…also I think files are downloadable now as ISO images.
But I think 8.5 is not released on CCO till now as I think.

Best Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice

From: <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:28 AM
To: Bill Talley
Cc: voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

for sure...if only 8.0 is available for whatever reason, i.e. media and/or license, then yes, 7.1.5 is not a viable option.

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From: "Bill Talley" <<mailto:btalley at gmail.com>btalley at gmail.com<mailto:btalley at gmail.com>>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: "voyp list" <<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>, "Leslie Meade" <<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>lmeade at signal.ca<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:24:53 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
You're correct, however, if she doesn't have 8.5 and upgrades to 7.1.5, how does she get to 8.0(x)?

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On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
as per the compatibility matrix (all hail the compatibility matrix!), upgrades from 7.1.5 to 8.5 are supported.

<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
                              - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
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From: "Bill Talley" <<mailto:btalley at gmail.com>btalley at gmail.com<mailto:btalley at gmail.com>>
To: "Leslie Meade" <<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>lmeade at signal.ca<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>>
Cc: "voyp list" <<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 6:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
Just don't go to 7.1.5.  IIRC, right now the upgrade paths to 8 from 7 include only 7.1.3 and earlier.
Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please excuse my typos.

On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Leslie Meade" <<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>lmeade at signal.ca<mailto:lmeade at signal.ca>> wrote:
Many thanks I knew it had to goto 7 first but wanted to make sure

Cheers

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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:21 PM
To: Leslie Meade; voyp list
Subject: RE: 4.2 to 8 upgrade

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From: <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Leslie Meade
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:58 PM
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Subject: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

Am I correct saying that I need to go to 7 first and then onto 8 ?

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