[cisco-voip] PBX

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Something you can also consider is an H323 only implementation using voip dialpeers. I'm not sure what call control you have available, but a couple of VG224s with a small router might just do the trick. 

Or am I off my rocker?

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On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:55 AM, <Zoltan.Kelemen at emerson.com> wrote:

> Hi Abebe,
> 
> Cisco (as far as I know) will never be competitive with the most basic
> systems as that is simply not their target market.
> 
> Panasonic for example has some reliable PBX systems in that size and
> with SLTs (single line telephones) it is certainly significantly below
> $1000 per user (look for a KX-TDA 30 for that size). Off brand PBX
> systems might be available for less, although this will largely depend
> on what you can actually buy where you are from.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Zoltan Kelemen
> ETS & Information Security
> Global Operations (EMEA)
> European Network Operations Engineer
> Cluj-Napoca, Romania
> zoltan.kelemen at emerson.com
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Abebe Amare
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:55 AM
> To: David Zhars
> Cc: cisco voip
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] PBX
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I reside in one of the poorest places in Africa so my insistence on
> cost. The solution is for a small motel which needs about 40 phones.
> They just need very basic features.There is no copper PSTN access for
> outgoing calls only GSM connection. If the UC system is affordable
> that is the best option for me.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Abebe
> On 12/18/10, David Zhars <dzhars at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well good luck Abebe....  I went through this same exercise 5 years
> ago.  So
>> called "standard" PBXs are very expensive, hard to configure or
> expand, and
>> have very little "future-ization" built in.  IP PBXs are very
> expensive,
>> moderately hard to configure and expand, and have a lot of
> "future-ization"
>> built in.   Do you deal with a large VAR like a CDW, or ProVantage,
> PCMall,
>> etc?  They might be a better source of information.  Many phone
> companies
>> now offer "rentable" PBXs, where the PBX stays in their building, and
> it
>> runs via a connection back to them (generally a high speed Internet
>> connection).
>> 
>> I found this blurb when I was doing my looking around and it's still
> true
>> today:
>> 
>> "Estimating costs for a complete phone system are very difficult:
> costs can
>> quickly climb into the tens of thousands of dollars. Key systems and
> hybrids
>> can range from $350 to $1000 per user, depending on the features you
> select.
>> For larger PBX systems, prices start at around $800 per user, but
> usually
>> wind up more in the $1000 per user range. There are significant
> economies of
>> scale: very small offices will find it hard to stay under $1000 per
> user for
>> any system, and companies with 100 or more employees save
> considerably."
>> 
>> I would think it very hard to purchase and install a new PBX with new
> phones
>> for less than $500 a person, and that would be cheap.
>> 
>> Again, good luck.  And last word: stay away from that junk you'll find
> at
>> Staples or Best Buy!!
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Abebe Amare <abucho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Go0se,
>>> 
>>> What kind of phones the UC 500 series support? Cisco phones are very
>>> expensive for the price range I am looking for. I am looking for low
>>> priced solution with very basic key system functionality.
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> 
>>> Abebe Amare
>>> 
>>> On 12/17/10, Go0se <me at go0se.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
> http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/products/voice_c
> onfe
>>>> rencing/uc_500_series/index.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Click on the MODELS tab once you open the page above. Then click
> the GET
>>>> STARTED tab to find someone who'll sell/install it for you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Go0se
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My blog:
>>>> 
>>>> http://atc.go0se.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>>> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Abebe
> Amare
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 6:45 AM
>>>> To: cisco voip
>>>> Subject: [cisco-voip] PBX
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello guys,
>>>> 
>>>> This might not be the right place to ask being a voip list, but I
> was
>>>> wondering if someone could recommend me a 48 phone capable PBX like
>>>> panasonic and if possible with phone models as well?
>>>> 
>>>> best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Abebe Amare
>>>> 
>>>> 
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